OREGON RESTAURANT: STIMULUS KEEPS PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED

I'm not the one making the claim, the onus is on you.

 

It is just that if you listen to homeless rants... For a great deal of them the only media that they have ready access to is a portable radio. Except for headbanging hour on the oldies rock station, they mostly listen to right wing talk radio. The same stuff that you listen to.

 

LOL, nice anecdote and mind reading.

 

There is one option for restaurant owners - double wages & double prices on the menu.

 

What we have here Libby is a case of Election year politics. If the Republicans did not offer this give-a-way they would of been crucified as heartless. When it comes to common sense and good government in an election year it seems like the Republicans, who had any little bit of balls, have been castrated. The Democrats, can not be seen as letting the Republicans be perceived as generous, so they block bills and add on monies for their pet pork projects and then claim victory.

Isn't it amazing on how they presented this as people are starving, people can't pay their rent, the children need lunches, people are on the verge of going bankrupt. Meanwhile in the real world, people are sitting home binging on Netflix and Prime, ordering from Amazon and Dominos, paying to have their grocery's delivered, and ordering video games at a record pace. So, what are the politicians saying? It's OK if you don't pay your rent or postpone your mortgage, it's OK if you don't pay your cable bill, it's OK if you don't pay your utility bill, it's OK if you don't pay your credit card bill. Is this not insane?

 

Worst.…..

We're now paying non-essential workers $2,000 a month/near $15/hr to PROTEST.

Who remembers this;

Trump's new guidelines: Get a job or volunteer if you want Medicaid

Question: Do paid protesters have the time to volunteer?

 

How Unemployment Works in Oregon

1. The Oregon unemployment office encourages you to file a claim as soon as you lose your job. This will help you receive financial assistance as soon as possible.
2. Apply for Oregon unemployment online, by phone, or in person at an office location. Expect to wait one week for confirmation that you have been approved.
3. If you meet Oregon unemployment benefits eligibility, you can expect to begin receiving your benefits by the third week of unemployment (if you filed immediately). You may be eligible for up to 26 weeks of benefits.
4. To continue receiving your Oregon unemployment compensation, you will need to file weekly claims that show you are searching for new work. You may also be required to seek out help from workforce assistance programs that help you find a new job.
5. The Oregon unemployment rate of payment determines how much you will receive each month, between $151 and a maximum $648. This is sent to you through a debit card or by direct deposit.

FAQs
What requirements must be met to qualify for unemployment benefits in Oregon?
To receive benefits, you must meet the following Oregon unemployment qualifications:

1. You must be physically and mentally able to work.
2. You must be available for work and actively seeking work. Availability includes accepting full-time, part-time, and temporary work.
3. You must be willing and able to work all the normal days and hours for the type of work you are seeking and at the normal pay rate for that type of work as well.
4. You must be willing to commute a reasonable distance.
5. You have been paid at least $1,000 in base wages during your base year and your total base wages were at least 1.5 times the wages paid in the highest calendar quarter of your base year. You can also qualify if you worked at least 500 hours and were paid wages that your employer paid UI taxes on.
6. You must conduct an active job search, including contacting employers who hire people with your type of experience, training and skills. Your job search must continue even if you are already working part-time.

To qualify for benefits, you must complete five work seeking activities each week. These work seeking activities may include:

• Attending job training workshops or meetings
• Networking
• Making direct contact with employers
• Updating your resume
• Reviewing job placement websites and newspapers for job leads.
• At least two of your job seeking activities must be direct contact with employers, either in person, by phone, by mail, or electronically.
• To remain eligible, you will need to report your job seeking activities and provide details of your activities and contacts.
• Union members must remain in good standing with their union and must continue to be capable of accepting and reporting for work when dispatched by their union.

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Question; What requirements must be met to keep receiving relief checks?

 

Unemployment has exploded due to the coronavirus shutdowns. https://www.dol.gov/ui/data.pdf

I think those of you claiming the government is on top of fraud and abuse are naive. Among other things, just imagine the manpower it would take to enforce this, with these increased numbers. Also, I can't speak for all states, but my state (Florida) has temporarily waived the requirement that people must be searching for work.

 

Fraud and abuse are the least of our problems.

Get real

 

How do you verify that there's no mechanism to do so. Original wage over what time frame? Not something you can just snap your fingers like the stimulus checks that went to everyone who had simply filed an income tax return. By the time you cold set that up this could be over.

 

What I'm suggesting is already pretty close to current unemployment benefits so we have already perfectly good mechanisms and can implement immediately. How long this will be in place should depend on how long the crisis lasts. At some point we should start reducing the benefits back to what they were originally and expire them.

 

"But as of this week, that same employee receives $1,016 a week, or $376 more than he made as a full time employee. Why on earth would he want to come back to work?"

Then they need to offer them more $$$ (hazard pay or sign on bonus)... simple.. or do it themselves

this will be a test if a shortage of employees really translates to higher wages

the reality is, most low wage jobs can be found easily, so of course most will just wait it out in the saftey of their homes, unless a better offer is made or a better job is found, especially without hazard pay early on

 

they were laid off by their employer, what other time does a laid off employee have to be loyal to the employer that laid them off?

the employer could offer them a signing bonus or hazard pay to get them to come back... be loyal to the employee they need so much

these people have a choice, stay home and be safe, or get paid less and risk their health and their families health to return to a job that just laid them off

"Darwin will work these situations. Karma, too."

yes it will, employers that do not treat their employees right might go bk

 

Current unemployment at least in my state has nothing to do with how much you were making and you don't report it it. It's flat rate amount. Yes it should be rolled back instead of all the way to July. But try to get THAT done in Congress and just wait for all the "YOU ARE SO HEARTLESS", "YOU HATE WORKING PEOPLE" nonsense.

 

This was only a temporary measure. We have 30 million idle people. It's impossible to pay them all unemployment benefits for the duration, so there's soon going to be massive competition by these out of work people in the service sector for the few remaining jobs. Some will get jobs. The rest will go on the dole, and the stress on local and state governments will be immense.

 

not sure anyone has asked those Trump protesters that question

we should ask them, did you get your stimulus, are you on unemployment

 

this was a carrot republicans gave to get the trillions for the corps, can't take back the carrot now

 

Good point.

 

They were not laid off by their employer, they were laid off by the state when the Governor ordered the closing of non-essential businesses. Many of those businesses will never reopen, their debt will be too great.

 

If someone loses his job, then he won't be spending nearly as much. This reduction in spending will hurt businesses that depend on the patronage of these tens of millions who just lost their jobs. The idea of giving everyone who loses their jobs solid unemployment benefits is that their spending won't be reduced very much. The result is that businesses will get plenty of revenue, and will hire. If we allow unemployed people to be financially ruined, this will hurt businesses and hiring.

 

And there are lots of people who if their spending is the same as when they were working when they aren't then they won't be very motivated to go back to work. Let's keep the businesses liquid and the jobs there and the people hungry for work not more free money.

 

So what you are telling me is that you are going to spend the exact same amount of money with a good job as when you are unemployed, there are no jobs, the mortage is due, and you are having to pay COBRA as well? Where does this logic come from, lol?

I get that if we provide infinite unemployment benefits forever, that people won't be motivated to go back to work. That is why we #1, only pay 80% of their original salary, and #2 make them pay for their health insurance themselves. We want to make it unpleasant to be unemployed, but not ruinous. When the jobs are back, then we cut back the unemployment benefits. When the jobs aren't there, we keep the benefits strong.

You want to keep the businesses strong and liquid, and that is precisely why I want people getting unemployment benefits and spending about how much they normally do. If people start going to bust, the businesses they depend on will fail, and how we have more people needing unemployment benefits. Extending unemployment benefits is about protecting businesses from collapse in a more natural freemarket way than just giving them a bailout.

 

Excellent point, 3 trillion in unfunded handouts to corporations and people are mad that employees that were fired don’t want to come back to work for minimum wage in the middle of a pandemic.

Where is the employees loyalty! How dare they!

 

some states, not all, mine never closed

 

Whatever, the OP was clearly concerning Oregon.