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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Foolardi, Oct 26, 2019.

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    already established you don’t know what this means.


    It isn’t a buzzword.

    again, reality is in direct opposition to this claim. Interracial couples could not marry. That’s why we have a Supreme Court case called loving v virginia.

    The 14th amendment precludes bans on interracial and same sexual couple marriages. It’s in plain English.

    Again reality is in direct opposition to your statement. Same sex couples can and do marry in all 50 states.

    The 14th amendment precludes same sex marriage bans. It’s in perfectly clear English.

    Demonstrably false.


    Demonstrably false.

    Demonstrably false.


    Demonstrably false.


    Yep
     
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    demonstrably false. That is not the definition of marriage in the US, or most every other first world nation.
     
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    Yes, there is... See Article I Section I.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    They have all re-defined the term. What these countries are recognizing as "marriages" are not marriages. Those "marriages" are Satanic counterfeits of marriage.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    ARF. RAAA. (Argument by Repetition Fallacy. Repetitious Argumentation Already Addressed)
     
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    Your opinion on the definition is meaningless. Nobody is bound by your religious beliefs. Marriage is a legal institution. And as such, the 14th amendment applies and precludes bans on same sex and interracial couples. Same sex couples are married identically as opposite sex couples. This is reality.
     
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    I accept your concession. And you don’t know what any of that means.
     
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    My opinion holds meaning.

    Never said they were. That's freedom OF religion, remember??

    No it isn't.

    The 14th Amendment says no such thing.
     
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    ARF. RAAA.
    Inversion Fallacy.
     
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    Only for you. The law doesn’t give a **** what you think.


    You are trying to apply your religious beliefs definition of marriage to everyone else. Doesn’t work that way.

    Well, the law says it is.


    of course it does. It’s why same sex and interracial marriage bans were struck down. Lol
     
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    I accept your concession again. And you have no idea what any of that means.
     
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  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    For the same reason that the ninth Amendment exists, to deal with other rights that the Founding Fathers may have missed or that may not have existed at the time. The Constitution exists to protect and expand our rights, not limit them
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Which says:

    "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives"

    I don't see anything there saying anything about the powers granted being exclusive. Again, if they had meant such an important thing to be the case they would have SAID so.
     
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    What legislative powers does congress have that aren't enumerated in article I, section 8?
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Freedom of religion implies and contains Freedom from religion, for I can easily say I practice a religion which says there is/are no god/gods nor any all-inclusive moral/ethical concepts/precepts and you cannot say I cannot do that without violating my freedom of religion, so the separation of the two is absurd.

    Sorry, not even the lexicographers agree with you any more

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/...nition-of-marriage-to-include-equal-marriage/






    Power 18 gives the Congress whatever are needed to do whatever is "necessary and proper" to do the other 17

    https://www.khanacademy.org/humanit...d-implied-powers-of-the-us-federal-government
     
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    So the 17 powers listed. That's it?
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, the 18th power too. The others are just the enumerated ones

    Please tell us what in the article I included you find unclear.
     
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    post deleted
     
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    The 18th allows laws to be made to carry into execution the previous 17.

    I find nothing you said unclear. Simply incorrect.
     
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  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Again, read the included article, then tell me how it is incorrect
     
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    I don't debate articles. Sorry. If you have a point, please make it. Otherwise whatever.
     
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    Inane non sequitur!
     
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    Appeal to Faith FALLACY!

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/31/Appeal-to-Faith

     
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    Actually no. There's this idea called incorporation that is NOT what the founders anticipated, but the SCOTUS being the buttmunches they are decided that this is how it's going to work. How it works is that the constitution applies to the federal government. Incorporation is when the supreme court decides that a particular (not all) aspect of the constitution applies to the individual states.

    The constitution was never supposed to apply to the individual states, but the 10th opened the way for that because it says anything NOT in the constitution is up to the states.
     
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