Our poorly regulated militia

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 2nd Amendment trumps whatever the courts have tried to infringe upon it over the years. Since there have been no amendments to the 2nd, I'll stand by that.

    As I was in both the Army and the Army National Guard in the past, I do have a concept of organized and unorganized troops. Perhaps Trump will place the better conservative judges currently in the lower courts up the ladder and then have even more than 100 fed court positions to fill. Doing that would be worth a hundred militias.

    I would not join a militia as they are too high profile, I have been part of a "Patriot-like" defensive group that seeks to run and hide in a WROL situation.
     
  2. Europe Rick

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    If the government decided to crack down on private militias the 2nd Amendment would be as much a claimable immunity as the 1st Amendment would be, fighting a counterfeiting charge.

    I sincerely doubt any Trump appointed judges or justices would upend 197 years of jurisprudence on federal preemption.
     
  3. vman12

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    Crack down? The government employees private para-military groups, like the one the Orlando shooter belonged to.

    They're downright complicit in creation of such groups, so it would be an interesting court case to say the least.
     
  4. Europe Rick

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    I think you need to calibrate the frequency of your tinfiol hat; that's not at all what we are talking about.
     
  5. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain how these civilian mercenary groups aren't government paid militia groups.
     
  6. TOG 6

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    As fair as increasing the effectiveness of the militia goes...

    I have no issue whatsoever with, and in fact propose, the federal government require all adults who can legally own a firearm purchase an AR-15, 6x30rd magazines and at least 500rds of ammunition, with said firearm, magazines and ammunition be safely maintained and stored in the owner's home. These people are then required to receive rifle marksmanship training with this rifle at least once every two years, with the standards of training to be set by the director of the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

    Any person who does not meet this requirement would pay a yearly tax of $2500 to serve as a subsidy for those who wish to comply with the law but do not have the means to do so.

    All of this is fully within the power of the federal government and would create a large pool of people with sufficient basic marksmanship skills from which the state and federal militias could draw upon as necessary.
     
  7. Rucker61

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    Interesting concept. According to SCOTUS, you don't have to be in the militia to own a gun, and according to the Militia Act of 1903 you don't have to own a gun to be in the militia. There are about 60 million men age 18-45 in the US, and liberally estimating that 1/6 are not able bodied or are otherwise exempted, that's 50 million men to take part in militia training. Since we're all New Age men who wouldn't dare of treating women as second class citizens, and respect the equality guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, we'll require women in that demographic to join the training, giving us another 50 million. Now more than a few won't want to actually handle a firearm, especially an EBG, so we can introduce them to the concept of "support troops" and have them do the cooking, cleaning, field sanitation, driving, and most importantly, field fortification construction. Why should those brave men and women who will do the actual fighting be required to dig their own fighting positions with such a large pool of well-trained labor available?
     
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    These people can elect to pay the yearly tax, of course.
     
  9. Rucker61

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    I'd rather have them digging slit trenches and emptying field latrines.
     
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    I suppose "alternate service" could be written into the act.
     

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