Pakistan warns U.S. of "disastrous consequences" for any more bin Laden-style raids

You post as your corroboration 2 highly biased sites and 2 unsubstantiated blogs.
You could just as well cite a previous post of your own.

Anyone, holding any position can find a wacko on the net that has a similar bent. And finding sites that agree with your position does not make them correct. That is what is meant by living in La La Land.

Finding absolute official proof is much harder to do

 

....meanwhile, illegal C.I.A "secret" drone strikes go on in Pakistan. Guess that doesn't bother them too much.

 

You mean "drone strikes that were incredibly effective in shutting down Al Qaeda in the region as demonstrated by Bin Laden's documents".

 

You mean "those drone strikes that have killed hundreds of innocent civilians in a foreign country which the United States is NOT at war with"?

Yeah, if these strikes were carried out by the US Air force, we'd be having international war crimes proceedings by now...but the war government gets the C.I.A to perform the strikes so they are covert, deniable and "matters of National security" so we cannot talk about them...

Isn't it funny how in the search for the big bad "terrorist" that want to take your freedoms and convert you all to Islam....the US is killing innocent people willy-nilly on a daily basis in a foreign country, which is illegal in international law. But this government sponsored murder is passed off as "collateral damage" and not "terrorism". How the definition of a word can change based on who performs the action.

It's funny because, at the same time your liberties and freedoms are being eroded in the USA.

Laughable to say the least. Keep believing those "documents discovered from Osama's memory stick".
The cheek of it all. "Bin Laden's documents" my Great British arse.

Believing anything your administration has to say, after all the lies that have been told in the past is the height of naivety and stupidity.

 

The documents are bearing deliciously dark fruits.

 

Absolute BS. The USA never supported Pol Pot and the Kymer Rouge when it committed its horrendous and atrocious crimes against its own population[/B]. The possibilty that it may have supported it in its war against Vietnam is a different issue alltogether.The two should not, deliberately or otherwise, be confused.

 

Very True.
Were it not for Viet Nam hangover, might have gone in and saved them.

 

Wow . Somebody that eats horse schite .

 

Global jihadi-inspired terrorism in not dead even though Bin Laden is.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban still threaten operating from bases in Pakistan.

I have started a new topic in the Warfare / Military - Terrorism forum for detailed consideration of the strategy of fighting jhadi-inspired terrorism.

Afghanistan NATO Taliban Pakistan Jihad Madrasah Arabs Drones Raids - AfPak strategy

 

Remove our troops from Afghanistan so that we no longer need Pakistan.
Stop all aid to Pakistan and give it to India.
With India's permission build a US base in India next to the border with Pakistan and dare them to speak up again.

 

"need" Pakistan? We don't need Pakistan.

We can supply our forces in Afghanistan from the air because we have some big airfields built there now.

Also so long as we don't fall out too heavily over Syria with the Russians and Afghanistan's northern neighbours, our forces in Afghanistan can get supplied from the north.

I don't say we should be craven to the Russians over their disgraceful support for Bashir al-Assad but I wouldn't get into a nuclear-power stand-off with the Russians for supplying al-Assad's forces. The Russians are pissing everyone else off over Syria. Never interrupt your rival when he is making a mistake.

I think it is much more important to keep the options open for our forces in Afghanistan and make firm progress against the Taliban, confronting Pakistan where necessary, which may mean losing the Pakistan supply route but that is no big worry if we keep other options for Afghanistan supply open.

So we don't actually need Pakistan supply routes though if supply through Pakistan is open and fairly risk free and we are not paying through the nose for transit fees then it's another option which we don't need but is nice to have.

You are right to be suspicious of the aid and in particular to the amounts given to the Pakistani military and police state for "help" in capturing some terrorists.

The huge amounts paid to the Pakistani state simply make Pakistan view training up terrorists and handing a few of them over to us for a reward as "big business". "Wow", Pakistan thinks, "Let's recruit more terrorists, let them bomb some stuff, kill some innocents, get a reputation with the Americans then we can capture them and hand them in for a big pay day!"

For all the "help" we are getting from Pakistan, we've paid far too much. I'd offer then something for the Al Qaeda chief Al Zawahiri if they have him, something for the Father of the Taliban, Sami ul-Haq, something for Mullah Omar "the spiritual leader" of the Taliban. Only the really biggest terrorist fishes should Pakistan get payment for.

Really we need to be using the stick with Pakistan far more. The carrot should be we won't use the stick so much. So if they hand over lots of University of Jihad professors then we won't bomb the University of Jihad campus. If they hand over lots of Taliban officers then we won't do so many drone attacks and bombing raids on suspected Taliban bases. That kind of deal.

We don't need to relocate to Pakistan's East when we can hit them very well from the West. It's a huge waste of time and effort and would leave Afghanistan vulnerable to an insurgency again.

 

Pakistan is no ally of the U.S., they just complain until they get more money. I say say it is time to cut them off, and let them deal with India which is a better ally than Pakistan in a number of ways.