Pakistani court allows marriage of kidnapped Christian girl because she had first period

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  1. chris155au

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    Do you see no distinction between the Muslim world and the Western world?
     
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    I assume that you acknowledge that in the US, the girls would not be cut off from their parents, if the parents consent to the marriage. And I assume that you acknowledge that this won't be the case when a child has been stolen from their parents as in this case. Again, you're right about it not being much different in the US, but you just can't seem to acknowledge ANY point of difference whatsoever.
     
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    I'm sure that this is restricted to faiths other than Christianity. We don't have freak Christian groups like the US Mormons.
     
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    True but Mormonism (LDS) has been compared to Islam for centuries. Many of their 'values' are similar.
     
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    There is. The West has defeated Christianity. The modern West is more realistic than spiritual. Religiosity is a really bad thing. :(
     
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    It's morals?
     
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    No, I said a letter of rebuke would be set. right now the Paki government's help is needed strategically, unless the security of American citizens is at stake, that help needs to be maintained. A letter of rebuke, critizing the government publicly is as far as I would go.
     
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    How is it needed strategically?
     
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    Actually, you're wrong. Christiananity is based on the Bible. The new testament clearly lays out what christiananity is and there is absolutely nothing "rabid" about it. Reading the books of Acts....which showcases the beginning of the christian church, is like listening to a Bible based Baptist sermon of today. Unchanged.

    You can blame people and their sin for veering from God and creating atrocities...but you can't blame Christian faith with the Bible as its foundation.

    And by the way....almost no one says jesus didnt exist. He's well documented in secular sources.
     
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    There is no log. Women and children can't be kidnapped and forced into marriage by our christian/judeo based rule of law. No log.
     
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    Well, kidnapping is indeed illegal, but as has been rightly pointed out by @Bowerbird, child marriage is a thing, and indeed recognised under certain state law. Of course, not that these marriages/relationships couldnt happen in a purely religious or secular sense, even if the state didn't recognise them. So we of course can't say that government is responsible.
     
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    But we aren't talking about child marriage. That is a whole other topic. When a girl is considered a woman is based on society norms...the magic age of 18 was created by our modern society. In past a woman of child bearing age was a woman and a man full grown was a man. Many 16 year olds fought in the civil war.

    What the topic is about is that a 14 year old was kidnapped!! And forced into marriage against her will.

    I'm sorry that people can't see the difference between Loretta Lynn choosing to marry at 14 vs allowing and sanctioning a kidnapping.

    The underlying theme is that the Pakistan law permitted it because the girl was Christian. Atheists are all for that.
     
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    Have you read it? lot offers his daughters to be raped. Which apparently is ok as long as it's not gay right?
     
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    Lot had all sorts of issues....making wrong decisions pretty regularly. Not sure how you think the message is that what he does is ok..
     
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    Yeah, that part isn't pointed out or emphasized. It's just not good enough. And, the bible is a self-contradictory pile of nonsense, you can make it say anything you want.
     
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    There are far greater risks with women having there first child n their 30's or 40's than women having them in their teen years.
     
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    And what about the kidnapping?
     
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    Ok then....
     
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    Exactly. Religion is stupid, and we all know it. The bible is the best evidence of this.
     
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    Alrighty....its nice you have the freedom to insult God, the Bible, christianity in a country....founded by a Christian people and instilled with christian judeo laws.

    Imagine if you lived in Palestestine, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and talked crap about their holy book.

    People who despise Christianity, while living in the freedoms offered by a country founded on christian judeo values come across as parasites to me.

    Especially when they lump all religions as the same as they deflect to protect Islam by slamming christianity.
     
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    Oh, for sure you are right that
    Oh, for sure, all religion is bad, and even religion that isn't christian is worse than christian.

    Now, the least stupid thing is still stupid, ie, christanity is still stupid even if it isn't as bad as islam.

    The real feedoms of this country are built on secularism not christianity which is very very obvious.
     
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    No that is not obvious. No country was ever founded on the values of atheism...no courageous souls ever did that. A country founded on atheism doesnt exist unless you include N. Korea...which successfully pretty much erased all beliefs.
    I think it obvious that history shows all great civilizations believed in a higher power.
     
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    Yeah, but this country was founded on the principals of atheism. You can't prove me wrong, and anything different would be dumb wouldn't it.
     

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