Palestinian terrorism in Tel-Aviv ( 20 Israeli citizens are wounded )

We didn't try to "take over"; we were already there when you decided you wanted independence.

 

Freedom is a great thing. Just like the royal family freely runs naked around the United States. lol can't get enough of that. We've strayed off topic

 

That's true.. and not every American wanted independence from England.

 

Enough to whip the brits, did

 

My ancestors fought in the Battle of King's Mountain and got land grants for their troubles.... How about yours?

 

Mine sent the British packing back to Europe!

 

So your ancestors fought in the American Revolution too?

 

Yes...was that not implied? lol!

 

Now it is the <support from France> that is to blame...? hmmm
How about the US support in the billions sent to the UK... Don't you think that without it you would have lost and your language would be German today? Achtung...

 

Ah yes. Just bluff and bluster I see.

Carry on.

 

We paid our loans off. Took about 40 plus years

 

So what? That means nothing. The point is that the US is the reason the UK isn't German right now. You're welcome.

 

Lets just set the record straight. British forces were not destroyed. And they weren't mostly pruss ian. Simply a matter of effort and supply lines. Actually the British learned a lot fighting the Americans that allowed us to continue our empire elsewhere and punish the American army when this was required.

 

Are you talking about the Marshall Plan? That was fueled by oil from Ghawar in Saudi Arabia. What did YOU do?

 

Lol actually the UK is the reason your not german right now. Your welcome.

 

Jeez. We were in Canada. North of you.

 

Churchill begged otherwise. Sorry, asked politely

 

Lol. Yes asked. Try taking on a Germany controlled entire European land mass including eastern Europe.
Your welcome.

 

The main reason Germany didn't invade England is that they looked at your women and decided it wasn't worth it, bad teeth and all...

 

No Palestine is the country historically, they built it, and the mandate abuses the covenant and ignores it by giving more rights to a minority of mostly immigrants.

And no Palestine needs to be the country. Not Jordan.

No Palestine was where they lived and it was built by them so that is their country according to me and everyone else . I have never said or written anything other than that.

Why should they accept a divided land?

What hold do the mistakes of previous generations have on us?

Except that more authoritative legal bodies have ruled otherwise.

One cannot settle on occupied territory or annex it so it's not obeying the laws.

Of course they harmed their political rights. They were given no equal say in the ultimate political outcome of their country. Today Israel has annexed territory. More harm to political rights.

Yes. It's completely discriminatory and therefore immoral and wrong. Contravening every human rights declaration known.

No it is transferring them. It's taking land for them to settle and giving them exclusive terms on exclusive neighbourhoods and exclusive roads.

No it's not giving them any political rights that's why they can't vote for Israel to leave.

No he didn't. He defended arafat

Not as much as someone actually on the other side saying it's not as you claim it is.

He's speaking of the whole era. He in fact was part of the negotiating team at taba. Here's him on arafat ;give away 8% of the West Bank for the sake of the Israeli blocks of settlement, so long as you give me a solution on Jerusalem.&#8221; .....
"His only way to get back to the territories was through an agreement with Israel. So in Oslo, he made enormous concessions."

And he here mentions arafat one last time:
"Things start to change in 1988, and I do give credit to Arafat here, contrary to what I do, according to Dr. Finkelstein in the last chapter. Arafat was the pioneer in many senses. He invented the peace process, what we call the peace process, by his declaration of 1988, and it is from that moment that those in Labour who continue to settle are the very people that think that, okay, at the end of the day we will have to find some sort of agreement with the Palestinians, where we might even have to dismantle these settlements, which is in itself an interesting march of folly, that is, that you create settlements knowing that at some point you might have to compromise."

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Ah more cowardly ignorant bluff and bluster I see.

Carry on.

 

The Jews and their money built it. For example Haifa.

The Mandate use Articles from the Covenant of the United Nations.

Britain created Jordan for the Arabs, thus Jordan is their country. (according to Britain of course).
Even the Mandate doesnt mention that "Palestine" need to be divided and Arab country need to be created there.

You said that they need to be in their country, and according to Britain Jordan is their country.
Jews and their money built up that country. Like Haifa, Rishon Le Tzion, tel Aviv, Nes Tziona, Rehovot etc.

Jordan is not divided!

It's not a mistakes, it is ICJ recognizing the Mandate.

If those bodies recognized the Mandate, then this ruling your are talking about is contradicting their document that they recognized it.
They can rule something if they recognize the opposite of the ruling.

You have in the West Bank lands that Jews legaly bougt. And Israel uses state land for the benefit of the Arabs and the Jews that are living there, thus obeying the laws.

SO who is Tibi? Zuabi? Zahalka (etc)? those people dont fulfill the political rights of the Arabs, right? they just in the knesset and members of Knesset just because and not to fulfill the political rights of the Arabs in Israel, right?

Abu Mazen control the Arab population in Area A and B- another evidence that Israel's letting the Arabs fulfill it.
The elections that were in Gaza after Israel disangagment is another evidence that Israel let the Arabs fulfill it.

Not really, they say that the rights of this Arabs community need to be fulfill. Which Israel fulfilled it and continues to fulfill their rights in Isreal.
It's just a reminder to you that even for the League of Nations there was no "Palestinian nation", "Palestinians" as you refer to them nowadays was not existitng.

That's why the UN in their report from 2012 wrote that Israel built a lot of inferstractures in the West Bank? These infrestractures is for the benefit of the Arabs too.

If they want to leave Israel they can do it without voting. They just need to buy a ticket for the country they want to go and fly there, like every other Israeli civilian.

He defend Israel when Dr. Finkelstein tried to accused her.

Ben Ami didnt cotradict what former President Clinton wrote in his book.

Still it doeant contradict what Clinton wrote in his book, and which I provided here.

Oslo is not Camp David, thus has nothing to do with what we are talking about (about Camp David, not Oslo.)

Still Ben Ami is talking about Oslo (not Camp David) which occurd in the 90's after the First Intifadah in the 80's .

 

Yes, of course. As you well know the reason Hitler shelved his invasion plans was because we gained aerial supremacy over England in the Summer of 1940 during the Battle of Britain-without America help, I might add.
Here, just in case you need an aide memoir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

 

Without american aid but with a big help from the commonwealth. Beside, the RAF was almost done for. It is estimated that if the german would have continue just a few weeks more, fighter command would have collapsed due to fatigue and busted morals. But Goering was an ass and diverted its bombers to hit cities instead of airfields.

 

That is correct. The however is this; In 39' we American's were of the 'type' I wish we were today, that is avoiding war as much as possible. Of course Roosevelt's congress was funding our woefully unprepared military to defend the western hemisphere in case war spilt' over. The reason the USA had not yet assisted the Brits was that they with France appeared to be holding their own in early 1939, and were doing just that as you pointed out (until after the BOB). Just for PFI.

reva

 

In early 1939 France had not yet been invaded.