Pandering Biden

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Had Biden said only this, "I wish we talked about all the great confessional faiths." then I might give him a pass. He's a trained lawyer and a slick pandering politician. First he pandered with the first part and then gave himself cover with the last part. Don't work for me. Words mean things and you have to listen carefully to what a politician says. They are slicker than owl s***. Biden has been campaigning and pandering most of his adult life. One big empty suit.
     
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    What exactly is Biden’s manifesto? Has he ever expressed what he believes in? Maybe he has but I can’t find it.
     
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    What you need to go with is Republicans being in the dark ages when it comes to social equality.
    They are the equivalent of Sharia.

    Here, this sounds like a typical Republican yet today.

    On August 22, 1980, a massive National Affairs Briefing organized by preacher James Robison brought 15,000 evangelicals to Dallas to demonstrate their newfound political clout. Robison, who had been forced off the airwaves after he claimed that gays recruit children for sex, announced that day, “I’m sick and tired of hearing about all of the radicals and the perverts and the liberals and the leftists and the Communists coming out of the closet. It’s time for God’s people to come out of the closet.”
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/brief-history-of-the-christian-right

    It is the base support of tRUMP. Sharia Christians.
     
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    Not equivalent to Sharia because no matter how misogynistic Sharia law is, it is tolerated and even venerated by the PC group. Still astonishes me.
     
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    Equal opportunity and rights does ride along side tolerance.
    Republicans, they are all about squashing any voice that differs from theirs. There's no equality among the Right wing of the country. Which equates to no tolerance outside the group.
     
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    Hmm... so your defense of Sha'ria law is that you feel that something similar happened here? Really? Can you show me when gays were thrown off roofs here in this country? Perhaps you can demonstrate when women were stoned in the streets? Beheaded or caned in the public square? No? I would remind you that the Democratic party was also pretty against gay folks up until around 2000 or so. So is your complaint that Sha'ria might evolve? Or is this your defense of reinstating the hate and the violence against folks that Islam don't like? It's hard to tell,
     
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    There is more than equal opportunity as I never had affirmative action and set aside programs available to me.
    Also what equal opportunity is available in countries under Sharia law; are women given equal opportunity? Are gays? Are Christians or other non-Muslims? Is anyone who doesn’t fully integrate into the non questioning Muslim mindset? Is questioning the faith even allowed in public expression?
    This forum is an example of tons of anti Trump speech. Anti Republican speech and even anti Christian speech. How long do you think it would be tolerated in Sharia law countries?
     
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    Your circle of friends appears to be limited.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
    Federal hate crime statistics[edit]
    In 2014, the FBI reported that 20.8% of hate crimes reported to police in 2013 was founded on perceived sexual orientation. Sixty-one percent of those attacks were against gay men.[6] Additionally, 0.5% of all hate crimes were based on perceived gender identity. In 2004, the FBI reported that 14% of hate crimes due to perceived sexual orientation were against lesbians, 2% against heterosexuals and 1% against bisexuals.[7]

    Can't say they were thrown off roofs, is that your only metric of proof you'll accept?
     
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    Whether you realize it or not, you were born with the AA spoon in your mouth.

    I don't live in a muslim country. I live in the USA with the constitution as the guide. Why not address the USA instead of whataboutism?
    Tolerance, equal opportunities, to all groups of people and sex of people.
    Are you against such opportunities?

    This forum is anti tRUMP speech? What? Proof?
     
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    You seem to be entirely missing the point. Any violence that happened in the US was also chargeable even prior to the hate crimes bill. Under Sha'ria law, these acts of violence aren't even crimes. This is what you're supporting here.
     
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    The murders of people who opposed sharia law were not isolated incidents by individuals but state sanctioned policies and that is the difference!
     
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    Supporting? What?

    They are chargeable in USA because the gov't is secular.
    If parts of the Christian religions were setting laws, they would not be punished. They'd be encouraged. Many churches speak against LGBT. They isolate them from their throngs. They cast them aside and want nothing to do with LGBTs.
    They didn't even want them to get married.

    So no, I did not miss the point. It seems you did.
    You forget, Religion doesn't dictate our laws. No matter how hard the Christian religious folks try to do so.
     
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    Nice what if scenario that frankly isn't a case that you can actually point to. When folks like Biden say that we need to invest in knowledge of Islam, it's a violation of the separations clause, it supposes that adoption of sha'ria is an acceptable discussion point to begin. Trying to ignore that by suggesting that some christians might be as bad is laughable. The wonder of our nation is that even if churches in this country, especially those who preach to the poor minorities of this nation (yes, black southern baptists) that is where this hate that you fear is being fomented. So, let's at least be honest here about what you're crying about and who these folks traditionally support, democrats, who are pushing Biden here. So, if as you say, you aren't missing the point, supporting the indoctrination of Islam in this country does suggest that you're looking for this to become the guide from which you package future democratic party policy with. And frankly, that's F'in dangerous.
     
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    There is no acceptable discussion of adopting religious laws.

    Where's the proof of the bolded?
    The OP is a failure, it cited absolutely nothing. But an opinion.
     
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    Opinions are free speech and encourage discussions. That's why we have the PF.
     
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    Now you do!
     
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    wow, 1980, ya, thats good (not!) solid info from 40 years ago.
    What's next? going back 80 and quoting hitler?
     
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    She sounds like one of the good ones!
     
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    RodB said:
    I know no one who thinks that.
    Who???
     
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    Joe Biden either has stage four dementia or he is a very good actor. After selecting Hillary, who was the worse possible choice, why would they run Biden, again, the worst possible choice if they hope to prevail against Trump?

    Maybe they are throwing another election. Biden appears to have no capacity to hold the attention of an audience, so, unless his Alzheimer's is a sandbag that he will allow him to wow in the debates, it makes no sense. n act). That said, if the economic decline is severe enough into November, the election numbers could still be very close because of the backlash against Trump.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/election-2020-worst-case-scenario-most-likely-one
     
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    Can you name anyone, or is it just an amorphous group of nameless people in the crannies of your mind?
     
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    Since there are many people who do not believe as you do: that all people who believe in Islam are terrorists, your circle of friends is not very diverse. I do not have to name any of your friends to understand that none of them know any Muslims that aren't terrorists. You made that inference.
    Muslims have lived in this country since before it was a country and were included as loyal Americans by the Founding Fathers.
     
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