Par for the course

Things are going to hell in a hand basket in Iraq because of Obama's stupid decisions.

Now he is voting present and leaving town.

IMO this is inexcuseable. He should be in Washington and be on top of the situation. Just how to his ass kissers explain his actions??????

 

Being ass kissers means never having to 'splain . . . nothin'.

 

Rule #11!

Read the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) rule, for crying out loud!

I'm not talking to you btw, I'm talking to the staff.

 

True, he might as well have kept our service people there to fight and die a while longer. We're so deep in the financial hole as a nation that it wouldn't have made much of a difference there anyway, and Iraq just might be a safer, more stable place today.

Of course, it's kind of a shame that the US military ever went charging into there in the first place, but there's no changing that now. Maybe the next Republican can take us back there for Part III.

 

There seems to be a lot of criticism about the president doing the wrong thing in Iraq, and not a shred of suggestion as to what he should be doing. I am left with the impression that folks will criticize the president no matter what.

 

Strange since i saw him on the news talking about the situation.
Just curious how many threads does it take for the right to whine about a another madeup outrage? How many has this been, anyone keeping count?

 

Home Run! If you stick around long enough, please do, you will come to learn that he does something they whine, if he does nothing they whine, the pattern is there for anyone to see. What I see different between Liberal leaning people and Conservative leaning posters is sometimes the lefties will support something considered conservative but one hardly ever sees it with righties. There used to be a time when discussion boards such as this were a new thing and people actually discussed issues and the personal attacks and extremists where the rarity, today it is a rarity to have an open discussion where the personal insults do not rear their ugly head, had one last week and was in pig heaven, people for both sides actually discussing an issue with civility and putting forth ideas. I know I can be harsh myself, I used to be known as a moderate, but they have taught me there is only one way, givce what you recieve, if they are respectful I return it, but if not, well. I miss those old days.

 

Gee-------------------all the personal attacks. Did I hit a nerve? You libs that think Obama never does anything wrong are a laughing stock. He caused this mess in Iraq, now he wants to vote present and runs off. He couldnt hardly wait to get on the copter and fly off.

 

Things are going wrong in Iraq because it was always a stupid idea to invade Iraq. Bush never should have done it, everybody said that exactly what happened would happen: it would be a total @#$%-up and whomever inherited the office from Bush would get the blame.

 

Pretty much it's a given that Obama is going to begin bombing runs against Al Qaeda units. The point being is that if Barack had been as good as he SWORE to this nation that he was back in 2008 when all those fanatically worshipful leftwingers were having Obamagasms and SHRIEKING "Hope and Change!" and "Yes we Can!" over a man with ZERO meaningful national level experience then Obama would not have screwed up the Iraq turn over in such a way that the nation would go belly-up in the blink of an eye. Next time vet the Dem Party presidential candidate rather than worshiping a super featherweight Political Rock Star as a living god.

 

So what is it the president should do? By all means, enlighten me. Share with me your thoughts, your analysis, and your plan.

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Do you honestly expect a politician to run on the platform of mediocrity?

 

When you promise the moon and then the moment comes when you actually have to deliver on that promise, either you deliver or . . . you blame Bush for your own innate failings. The pattern has been established. Go figure.

 

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Get in touch with your dear leader Obama, convince him to hire me with a huge salary, and I will be more than willing to advise him on what logic dictates he should do.

 

Yeah.So what should the president be doing about Iraq?

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Well, in all fairness then, how can you criticize the president for doing what he is doing and not have an idea of what he should be doing?

 

Oh the irony...

 

You mean now that he has totally screwed up -- again? Well considering that due to his own incompetence he has only two options left (either begin bombing runs or do nothing) even HE should now be able to figure out what to do. It's a pity though that it's come down to that. The Left really messed up back in 2008 when they selected a super featherweight for the presidency.

 

What get's me is that it was Bush that set the date for withdrawal of forces. It was Maliki who refused to sign the status of forces agreement which was needed to keep a residual U.S force in Iraq. It was Maliki and his government which ignored all calls to be inclusive by including Sunni's in the Government, it was Maliki and his government which went out of it's way to harass and alienate the Sunni's, to the point that they were willing to actively aid ISIS, and for the Sunni's in the Army to just walk away when ISIS and it's allies made their move. It should be noted that ISIS did not allow it's troops to enter the Kurdish sections of Mosul, since they knew the Peshmurga would retaliate, and they are rated by far the best troops in Iraq. And all of this is somehow Obama's fault? The only way that Iraq will ever be a single state considering the sectarian and ethnic divides, is through a strong military dictatorship, which we kicked to the floor.

The simple fact is that the Iraqi people don't want to be the Iraqi people, they want to be Kurds, Sunni Arabs and Shia Arabs.

 

So if he should be able to figure it out now, what is your complaint regarding the president and Iraq?

 

Give that man a kewpie doll.

It is my opinion that Maliki is no better than his predecessor, that this entire affair is one giant, decade plus cluster (*)(*)(*)(*). First mistake, invading Iraq. Second mistake, disbanding the Iraqi military. Not a lot of good ideas in the 11 years since.

 

That it should never have gotten to that point in the first place, and had a decent president won in 2008, then it would not have gone belly up here and now. Don't ask if you don't want to be told.

 

To quote that famous philosopher, Mr. Kip Dynamite.

Napoleon, like anyone can even know that.

 

Obama and Clinton are a lot alike. Clinton blows hell out of an empty tent with a million dollar missle, and Obama just skips town. He wanted to be president, so he should stay in town and do the job.

BTW what the hell is he doing about getting that Marine out of Mexico? He could be in Washington and working n that too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stumper ain't it? Much easier to say he is doing everything wrong, than to state what he should be doing.

I must say you folks are a disgrace to forensics. If you can't formulate a simple argument for and against your own position , then you have no right to your opinion.

 

There is probably 300 million people in this country that knows better what should be done than Obama. The ones that dont are in the Obama admin.

 

Almost half of those people voted FOR him.