Part 24 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Post for Gorn Captain.

Give up. WarRen cannot see that every time he posts 727 he is contradicting himself. I've explained it to him twice but he still doesn't understand due to his lack of English. I'll try for the last time.

 

The Bible tells you the above that 'Pontius Pilate presented to the crowd two men, Jesus Christ a Holy man and Barabbas a criminal, rapist and murderer.....................................' so you believe it. Can't you see what you have done? You have associated the two. If, because you believe in the Bible that Jesus was a Holy man and you say so, then you must accept what the bible says about Barabbas. You say that Barabbas was a rapist. The Bible that you believe does not. Either that or you accept the Bible is in error.

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The Bible tells you the above that 'Pontius Pilate presented to the crowd two men, Jesus Christ a Holy man and Barabbas a criminal, rapist and murderer.....................................' so you believe it. Can't you see what you have done? You have associated the two. If, because you believe in the Bible that Jesus was a Holy man and you say so, then you must accept what the bible says about Barabbas. You say that Barabbas was a rapist. The Bible that you believe does not. Either that or you accept the Bible is in error.

 

Oh, I gave up on HIM a while back.

I just wonder why MittRyan still thinks HE has any credibility left, when he is obviously remaining silent on the "Barabbas as a rapist" LIE, so as to not embarrass his "buddy".

Mitt's inability to say what the truth is about what the Gospels say about Barabbas, show that he cares nothing for "truth", much less "Biblical truth"....and more about his own personal agenda and blog friendships.

 

You are confused and making things up about what I said.

I am just going by what the Bible says.

The Bible states that every human was destroyed in the flood and that Shem was the forefather of all people in Sumer.

This makes your claim that Shem adopted the Sumerian Pantheon kind of silly because there could not have been any Sumerian Pantheon when he got of the Boat... unless you are suggesting that this was the religion practiced by Noah and Shem all along.

Are you suggesting that the Religion of Noah and Shem included the Sumerian Pantheon at the moment they stepped of the Boat ?

 

1. We KNOW WR makes up stuff, Gifted.

2. Waste of time to "go by the Bible", since WR doesn't go by the Bible....just his own "truthiness"

 

1) Yes we do
2) Perhaps there is some version of the Bible that we are not aware of ? "The WR Bible"

Perhaps WR is actually a prophet and is being inspired by God to make these numerous changes to the Bible.

 

WR ... you have been caught many times claiming that the Bible states things that it does not. Is this lying ?

 

WarRen is using the Latin Vulgate Bible. Unfortunately he doesn't read Latin.

 

In the WanRen Bible, Barabbas is a convicted rapist......there were no babies during the Flood because they had all been cannibalized.....and Jews do not go to Hell, but followers of Judaism do.



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"rapist" in Latin is "raptor".....which means that Barabbas was a falcon or a dinosaur.

It's all so clear to me now.

 

American indians were in the US before adam and eve were created. They were here at least 10,000 yrs ago.
You are on record of the flood happening about 3500 yrs ago. At most A&E were created 10,000 yrs ago. So kinda hard for 2 humans to populate the other side of the world.

 

He is being inspired all right. But not by God. But by what WR would call God's adversary. Satan.

 

You see I did not say "the Bible" but you guys kept injecting that I said that you are intentionally avoiding the discussion and the discussion is PIlate's action in presenting Barabbas to the Jews and the reason and why the Jews chose Barabbas over Jesus that is what you guys are avoiding and I can understand very well why that is why you guys have to continue to lie about my post and avoid the discussion When Pontius Pilate presented to the crowd two men Jesus Christ a Holy man and Barabas a criminal, rapist, murderer And yes I believe that Barabbas was a criminal just like you believe in your Judaism and I discuss further Barabbas criminality to include rapist, murderer, killer etc. in fact I can also add larceny, child abuser, etc. I have associated my claim based on the historicity of the Bible that part of history that Barabbas was a criminal. You and your friends on the other hand continue to lie about what I post and defend the criminality of Barabbas and as far as my posting Jesus is a Holy man is also based on the historicity that those like you who do not believe in the Divinity of Christ believe he is a holy man, a teacher or a preacher (unless I am wrong that you do believe in his Divinity?). The Bible is in no way in error it is those who misinterpret and lie about it are in error.

Let us put it this way if I am in error than this mean you are not?
And if you are not in error then you believe the Bible is correct that Barabbas was only a criminal not a rapist as according to the Bible and that the Jews chose him over Jesus Christ the Messiah not the Holy Man as according to the Bible and if that is the case then he is the Son of God because I am wrong or in error and you are right? Yes or no? If yes then I do apologize that I said Barabbas was a rapist and that Jesus Christ was a Holy Man when in fact you have corrected me that Barabbas as according to the Bible was a criminal and Jesus Christ is the Messiah for that I say thank you.

 

I never and will ever give up on you guys because truth matters.

 

Wait a minute, the Bible never said anything about Sumerian gods or goddesses or their pantheon thingy.
I am discussing your hypothesis that Noah's ancestry is Sumerian and for the sake or argument or discussion let us say he is of Sumerian and that he was familiar with Sumerian religion based on that is the reason why God chose him and Noah accepted that is when he started to distance himself from the Sumerian pantheon the religion of the fallen angels. After the flood descendants of Noah will spread out all over the world and soon some of them will start reverting back to pagan religion that has its origin on Sumerian pantheon or religion but one family member will continue to uphold God's message his name is Abraham.

 

Actually I have caught you all many times in my giant net claiming all sorts of false claims about the Bible that in your dictionary is called lies and I have been very successful to refute and rebuked them all.

 

This is the sort of lies the reason why we are here to share the truth.
Barabbas was a criminal and rape falls under that.
Cannibalism is evil
The flood in Noah was to punished the wicked and evil.
Anyone who accept Jesus Christ will not go to hell this include followers of Judaism and atheist
And Barabbas was no raptor he was a human like you and me.

 

I have a few more to add to the list. When God was having the Israelites kill babies he was doing it to save these babies from their evil parents.

When God sent Satan to test Job and Satan brought down fire from heaven to kill Job's family ... God was somehow not complicit in the dirty deed.

When Noah and Shem got off the boat the Shem decided to believe in the Sumerian Pantheon (even though no such Pantheon would have existed as no people were around but Noah's family)

God makes King Sihon refuse the Israelites passage. The Israelites defeat Sihon's army and rather than just passing through the land they kill all the townspeople in all the towns they encounter but God had nothing to do with any of this killing and there are no innocent babies killed because their parents were doing evil things (even though the Bible says nothing about these people being evil)

 

You were the one that stated that Shem adopted the Sumerian Pantheon.

What do you mean "reverting back" to the Sumerian Pantheon. How can you revert back to something when you were never there to begin with ?

What are you suggesting here ? That Shem worshiped the Sumerian Gods prior to the flood and then reverted back to these Gods after the flood ?

This would be the only way any of what you are suggesting could be possible. (Other than the Sumerian Gods coming down and re-introduced themselves to humanity)

Abraham did not uphold anything .. why must you make up such nonsense. Abraham was worshiping the Sumerian Pantheon until some God named El Shaddai visited him. Shaddai was the name of a Canaanite God but this is another story. Stick to the point and explain your comments on Shem.

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You are pretending your fantasy world is real. Give one instance where I have made a false claim about the Bible that you have refuted ?

 

Sounds legit. Thanks for sharing.

 

There is NO indication that Barabbas was a "rapist" as you claim. None.. which makes you either a fool or a liar.. Barabbas was a zealot who opposed the Roman occupation... In short he would have been considered a freedom fighter. You have really stepped in it here.. demonstrating that you either suffer a language barrier or you are a total idiot.

 

Wow! amazing atheist-bible! I thought you are of the Sumerian religion?

 

Here your own statement

That clearly is a false statement about the Bible.

 

According to the Bible there is no specific indication he was a rapist however based on the charges and claim Barabbas was a criminal that we can always discuss this further to include rape.
There is no indication in the Bible that Barabbas was a specific freedom fighter freedom fighter against Rome or against the Pharisees rule, or a zealot....quoting your own words..."demonstrating that you either suffer a language barrier or you are a total idiot".

If Barabbas was a freedom fighter fighting against Roman occupation as according to you then why would the Jews chose him over Jesus wouldn't this make the Jews collaborators? Maybe this was Pilate's intelligent plan he wants to find out who else are the freedom fighters? You just contradicted yourself if Pilate want the Pharisees to chose he would not have let them chose an enemy of Rome it would be both enemy or criminal of the Jews.

 

As I was watching the new Dracula movie I thought about he was like Abraham. They were both eager to sell their souls to get what they wanted.

 

Indeed nothing is impossible with God, amen