Part 32 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

What are talking about? The Bible has God commanding the Israelites to murder Amelekite infants. What crimes did those infants commit?

 

And there have been "Christians"....like you...who have used their self-righteousness to claim their own lust for blood or power is "justified by God because those other people are 'ants' that need to be squashed."

 

What a load of tripe. There's no reason to suppose a child of a rapist will become a rapist. Does that apply to female babies? Perhaps you should read http://afterabortion.org/2004/rape-incest-and-abortion-searching-beyond-the-myths-3/

In the old times not only the Amalekites were fighting everyone, they were no worse than many other tribes.

 

For what reason?

 

Of course this is coming from your biased opinion of the Bible. But the thing that's puzzling about you is that you claim to be an agnostic. Agnostics aren't suppose to be sure of anything, agnostics are suppose to be straddling on the fence yet your statement implies that you are sure...."If you've read the Bible you should know....."

What?..."you should know"? That's not agnosticism. Your position should be that you are not sure about anything in regards to the Bible same as you are not sure about the existence/non-existence of God.

God exists so the Bible is true (this is the view of theists)

God doesn't exist so the Bible is false (this is the view of atheists)

But agnostics like I said are straddling the fence, they don't commit themselves to believe one way or the other they simply say, "I don't know what is true when it comes to God/Bible."/"I am not sure of anything when it comes to God/Bible."

Conclusion: You are confused about your belief system. Your statements sound more like an atheist than an agnostic. But the thing is though, all atheists and all agnostics will not be saved, you all are basically in the same boat....the boat that is doomed in the eternal after-life!

We read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him." ---John 3:16-17 NLT

 

No, that's the view of Judeo-Christian theists, particularly Literalists. God can exist...and the Bible still be inaccurate.

 

God ordered the Israelite to destroy the Amelekite and because God knows who the Amelekites were he ordered them to be destroyed.
How well do you know the Amelekites including their babies?

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Christian like me stands in the way of tyrants, dictators and anti God from consuming this world.

 

Because God specifically commands the infants be killed.

 

I agree with you it is a load of tripe to abort a baby just because they thought it will become a rapist sadly that is part of the reasons of abortion.
Yes it applies to female babies in some atheist countries they prefer boys over girls
The Amalekites would probably be the worse kind or else God would not have ordered their destruction.

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For the same reason why everyone else is quoting everyone else.
Do you prefer your statement to be private? If so then you should not post it here in public forum.

 

God ordered the Amalekite to be destroyed including their babies because God knows who the Amalekite were.
If you knew the babies were the Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam, etc. what will you do?

 

So free will doesn't exist and people are fated to be evil? That is what you are saying?

Those infants had committed no crimes. They were innocent. Your Monster God commanded they be murdered.

 

How many times do I have to say this. I have studied the Bible from the aspect that it is a religious book. I am agnostic, having once been a Christian. If you study the Bible from every aspect you must inevitably come to the conclusion that it is merely a book that has some wisdom in it. To inter relate the OT and NT does not stand up to study. I've pointed this out to you time and again. The Tanakh relates to the Judaism, Christianity merely misinterprets it for it's own use.
I am not confused at all. I have no belief either way. There is no evidence of a supreme being or of Jesus being a Messiah. Let me quote the Missionary apologist Walter Riggans who candidly admitted:

“There is no self-evident blueprint in the Hebrew Bible which can be said to unambiguously point to Jesus. Only after one has come to believe that Jesus was the Messiah, and more specifically the kind of Messiah that he is, does it all begin to make sense...” (Yehoshua Ben David, Olive Press 1995, p.155)

He's right. Nothing in the Hebrew Bible points to Jesus. But you will never see it while you continue to need your websites to answer questions. While you refuse to consider 3000 year old conditions, culture and Jewish religion and history you will remain in a shadow world.

When modern scholars interpret the OT they use the same methods used to interpret other, non-religious ancient writings. They consider what was written in the context of the conditions and beliefs of the time. Christianity doesn't. Christian scholars tend to study under the conditions laid down by Church Creed etc. They are not liberated to consider matters with a neutral mind.

You've proved that time and again.

 

Unless that tyrant tells you that some people are "evil" ...in which case you support the mass killing of those other human beings.

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He just denied Free Will.

 

God didn't order the Israelites to kill the Amalekites... That just more of their bogus history... Joshua never had a big army.

 

My post did not need a reply. I simply pointed out that you had misinterpreted, accidentally or purposely, another poster.

Read it. It conflicts with your post. http://afterabortion.org/2004/rape-i...d-the-myths-3/

 

Free will exist does not mean you have the free will to promote wickedness and evil.
Those infants are being used as an excuse to promote wickedness and evil our merciful God acted to stop them from using those innocent babies to promote wickedness and evil.

 

Tyrants will always use babies to instill fear and submission to promote their evilness and only God can stop them from mass killing all the innocent people.
Tyrants do not respect human rights or free will that is why they are very much against Christians.

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In that case there was no baby killing at all it was all made up by anti God people to promote hatred against Christians and God.

 

That is the reason I reply to your post because you are agreeing with their misinterpretation especially in regards to abortion and the use of babies to promote and justify evil.

 

According to you that is what you believe, however Scripture tells us something different. Also it wasn't Joshua who destroyed them because He was already dead, it was King Saul who destroyed the Amalekites.

We read in Scripture:

This is what the Lord of Heaven’s Armies has declared: "I have decided to settle accounts with the nation of Amalek for opposing Israel when they came from Egypt. Now go and completely destroy the entire Amalekite nation—men, women, children, babies, cattle, sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys."---1 Samuel 15:2-3 NLT

 

If free will exists and people aren't predestined, then your whole "those kids might have been Hitlers" is bunk.

 

If you have studied the Bible from all its aspects and for all its worth you will understand that it is a Holy Book about God and God's special relationship with humans.

There is beyond reasonable doubt that Jesus Christ is the Son of God is the Messiah this was the very reason why the Pharisees had him crucified.
The Hebrew Bible which is the OT is about Jesus Christ coming. Your refusal to admit and see how the leadership of Judaism have usurp and corrupted the Old Testament to feed their own agenda to make it a Jewish not God's tradition.

Christianity interpret the OT and all other ancient text according to their history, contents and conditions when it was written whether they are authentic or not. If it wasn't for the church many of the true writings and the Bible would have been lost or corrupted.

We have proved that your understanding of Christian and Bible history is wrong.

 

On the contrary only God knows.

 

By destroying them??????????????

 

I have studied the Bible from all aspects. That is why I know it isn't a Holy Book.

There is no evidence that Jesus was anything more than a Jewish teacher.

There is no reference to Jesus whatever in the OT. And why should the Jews corrupt their scriptures. These were written long before Jesus or Christianity were even dreamed of. This is what they believed before Christianity appeared. You really need to study and think about things. For 600 years before Jesus appeared the Jews were accepting what I have said many times - Isaiah 53 refers to Israel. The corruption is on the Christian side.

That is pure nonsense and easily proveable as nonsense. The church has promulgated the story of Jesus birth in the gospels as true because Matthew and Luke wrote the stories. These 2 do not agree wirth each other. If the church had studied under the conditions of the time of the Romans they would not have accepted either version.

Modern scholars today acknowledge that they need to re-evaluate the events in both Testaments under the conditions of the time.

You've only proved your own ignorance and indoctrination.

 

So you know better than the authorities who deal with this. Your arrogance is beyond belief.