Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Sure. That is separate issue to me, and belongs in the politics threads.
     
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    I did not accuse Todd of deception ?? what kind of
    Now Brother Todd you see - who is the decepticon - bearing false witness

    Now Mitt - You say "interpritation impaired" .. OK . but at least give is the scripture referred to .. That you do not .. is more deception - in some effort to avoid the "Bad Scripture" that is giving you the hee bee gee bee's

    Trinity - Solomon's - when he was sacrificing children to YHWH -- at them "High Places" .. for which Jerusalem was so famous..

    You were trying to come up with the 3rd personage .. YHWH - Asherah (consort) - and what else ?

    you were going on about the Trinity .. so tell us what Solomon's Trinity was .. there were lots of them in Jerusalem in Solomon's day .. none containing Jesus . .. but perhaps we can put in a substitute say "Dagon" the fish God ...and see if that works ?

    anyway .. what is your suggestion for interpretation here .. I know what Im thinking .. but want to give you the opportunity first.. I will give one possibility though .. What Was the Trinity being celebrated at the Golden Calf Festival ... presided over by Aaron ... hmmm

    anywhoo .. please decist from the web .. and shed some light on this Trinity issue. "The Trinity of Solomon"
     
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    Projection - in its purist form :)

    From Start to Finish. convinced you are right .. right? .. and everyone can see right ?

    Right - so who are these evil atheists trying to convince themselves that they are right - and why are you so obsessed with their beliefs .. that you feel the need to demonize these folks .. and if you are not obsessed with the beliefs of others .. why tell me about it ?

    I told you .. is an obsession !!
     
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    :applause:

    and an excellent point that is. Written right into the declaration of independence .. upon which law and the constitution are to be interpreted - and the rules of constitutional republic.

    but most important - isn't right according to the main Teaching of the Almighty HeyZeus ! .. aka "The Rock" .. the Solid Foundation
     
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    Sorry, but I am not talking about you. I told you twice that you are free to believe anything you want, but you keep trying to make it about me

    I believe what I believe, and you are welcome to disagree. The more you say, the more you prove my point,

    Aww....he plays the victim card.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    Excellent yeah but not in the sense you see it Wolv, I mean in my view it was an excellent post of lies & deception.

    But truth be told, there were a few truths stated by the Gift but for the most part it was merely lies & deception. I have responded to this post of Gift recently and I didn't give him a good score obviously because it was excellent in lies & deception but very poor in truth & honesty.

    Ok thanks Wolv & Gift for your posts, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Brother Mitt - get ahold of yourself, why you area running around crying "Lies and Deception" did something about King Solomon Trigger you ? You were supposed to tell us about Solomon's Trinity .. the one that included Child Sacrifice God YHWH...

    so what is the third personage in Solomons Trinity YHWH - Asherah (consort) - and who else is in there ? Brother Todd needs to know .. do not let us down.
     
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    what victim ... pure silliness .. in wild denial of the reality of your obsession with the beliefs of others. .. Who .. is the victim .. in this prediction .. har har har :)
     
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    ???? I said some people who claim God does not exist are obsessed with talking about God. That is factually true, but your rebuttal is "no, YOU are obsessed". Eight yr olds argue like that.
     
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    You said more than that .... in your obsession with the beliefs of these atheists .. then claimed to not be obsessed with the beliefs of atheists .. while obsessing over them.

    "Eight yr olds" Not for me to criticize .. but if the shoe fits ?
     
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    I'm having a flashback from 2nd grade arguing with other kids in the hallways :D:D:D.

    Kid1: Some kids are obsessed about Star Wars toys.
    Kid2: NO, YOU ARE OBSESSED
    Kid1: I was talking about the toys
    Kid2: NO, YOU ARE OBSESSED

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    That was his opinion, his educated guess, not a factual statement he was sharing with us. And besides we don't know when Almighty God created the universe and everything else in it to come into existence because He never gave us those details. But whatever it was obviously it had to be before the last ice age ended.

    YE believers are also giving an opinion when they say they believe the earth is only 5-6 thousand yrs. old. So who knows anything for sure?... well...only Our Creator Almighty God knows anything for sure, after all He created the universe and everything else in it to come into existence. So surely He knows how old the earth is and when the last ice age ended.

    We Read in Scripture:

    The Account of Creation


    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.[a] 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Genesis 1:1-2 NLT

    Ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it. And hopefully my response makes you understand that the last ice age has not flown in the face of creationism.
     
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    and you seem to be enjoying it .. do you have such reversions often ?
     
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    Mitt - you were telling us about Solomon's Trinity .. what does young earth creationism old have to do with it.

    See Brother Todd -- the decepticon .. is avoiding - doesn't want to address your question about Solomon's Child Sacrifices to YHWH.

    The Trinity Mitt who were the 3 personages in Solomon's Trinity .. .. Let us not run from Scripture for as we read .. "there were Male Prostitutes in the Temple of YHWH" and we want to hear your thoughts on those .. but first .. the Trinity .. of Solomon.
     
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    You are wrong about most of those who talk a lot about if God exists. You are projecting.

    And it isn't so simple to separate the church/state issue from the belief issue, because the belief is in a religion that specifically says to do X and Y. The belief is precursor to the interference in state, so it makes sense to talk about the mere beliefs even when not about the interference itself.
     
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    Dr. Robert Ballard, an acclaimed underwater archaeologist says that he has evidence Noah's Biblical flood happened. He and his team discovered a catastrophic event that happened in the Black Sea which he estimated happened around 5,000 BC.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ev...t-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533

    After reading the entire article I did not read anywhere where Dr. Ballard tells us he doesn't believe such nonsense...oh I know why, it's because you've made it up...lol

    What we do read is Dr. Ballard saying, "Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood happened." Then he tells us about the evidence He and his team discovered in the Black Sea.

    Ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it, hopefully you come away with a different attitude/opinion regarding the Great Flood of Noah and not brush it off as just being nonsense.
     
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    Projecting? Please explain.
     
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    Watch the Supernatural Brother Todd - at work in the world - rooting out deception .. and correcting towards the true path laid before you .. the Way - The Truth - The Light ..

    "Made up Nonsense" - is you putting words in my mouth... as you do the mouth of God .

    The Black Sea flood did not cover the whole earth .. but that is one great example of the source of one of the Flood myths. The Story in Genesis is rooted in such History .. comes from stories passed down from what would look to a person living in the area in 5000 BC ... as the whole world flooding.. so when it is recorded "The Whole World" Flooded .. they are speaking the Truth .. according to thier understanding of the world.

    The Literalist unfortunately - will claim the whole world had to flood - and is tied to that position .. like a lead weight around neck- the whole foundation of their belief resting on the truth or falsehood of that position .. if that one pillar breaks .. the whole structure collapses.

    For as we read in Scripture - “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
     
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    You are declaring something about people that you don't know. I can only assume it is because you have such doubts about your own position on the matter, or that you dearly want them to have doubts most of them don't have. Why else would you do such a thing? It is like the people who claim there are no actual theists, and all of them are just pretending to believe due to social expectation. Sometimes it seems that way to many atheists, but we can't know this to be so because we are not in their minds. Nor are you in the atheists' minds.
     
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    Sorry Gift but it appears you are once again displaying your interpretation impaired issues. The author says no such thing in the article, it's you again misinterpreting what you've read.

    Myths are not based in fact, because there is a difference between myths and facts. If myths are based in fact then it's not a myth anymore but a fact. You cannot interchange them so easily such as you have done.

    Here let me present below an article that explains the difference between fact and myth.

    http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-fact-and-myth/

    Ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it and hopefully you've learned the difference between facts & myths.
     
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    The proof is in the endless discussions by atheists who claim they do not believe God exists. They can't stop talking about it.

    Do what exactly?
     
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    Here let me present what's written in Scripture from the Gospel of Luke which starts at the point where He appears to the Disciples sometime after His resurrection. He speaks to them then shortly after He is done speaking to them He ascends to heaven.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Jesus Appears to the Disciples


    35 Then the two from Emmaus told their story of how Jesus had appeared to them as they were walking along the road, and how they had recognized him as he was breaking the bread. 36 And just as they were telling about it, Jesus himself was suddenly standing there among them. “Peace be with you,” he said. 37 But the whole group was startled and frightened, thinking they were seeing a ghost!

    38 “Why are you frightened?” he asked. “Why are your hearts filled with doubt? 39 Look at my hands. Look at my feet. You can see that it’s really me. Touch me and make sure that I am not a ghost, because ghosts don’t have bodies, as you see that I do.” 40 As he spoke, he showed them his hands and his feet.

    41 Still they stood there in disbelief, filled with joy and wonder. Then he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he ate it as they watched.

    44 Then he said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures. 46 And he said, “Yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah would suffer and die and rise from the dead on the third day. 47 It was also written that this message would be proclaimed in the authority of his name to all the nations,[a] beginning in Jerusalem: ‘There is forgiveness of sins for all who repent.’ 48 You are witnesses of all these things.

    49 “And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised. But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from heaven.”

    The Ascension

    50 Then Jesus led them to Bethany, and lifting his hands to heaven, he blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up to heaven. 52 So they worshiped him and then returned to Jerusalem filled with great joy. 53 And they spent all of their time in the Temple, praising God. Luke 24:35-53 NLT

    Ok thanks for your post Beast, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    "Interpretation impairment issues" --- The author does not say the Black Sea flood covered the entire Earth. Do not try to pin these deceptions and falsehoods onto me Brother Mitt .. do not listen to the voice of the deceiver.

    You are avoiding Solomon's Trinity Mitt -- Brother Todd is relying on you - he can not understand why Solomon sacrificed children to YHWH ..
    Help us Brother Mitt -- Why did King Solomon and the Israelites sacrifice children to YHWH - why are you running away in time of need .. for as it says in scripture .. if you ware weak in a crisis, you are weak indeed :)
     
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    I'm here on God's green earth enjoying every moment of my precious life, which is the 1st phase of my journey. The 2nd phase of my journey will be in Paradise with the Lord and others who are saved in His Kingdom of Heaven to live happily ever after in eternity.

    I believe the Good News of the Gospels. I have unquestioning faith/trust/loyalty and most importantly great love for the Master, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    We Read In Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,


    16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

    18 “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.” John 3:16-21 NLT

    Ok thanks Beast for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Whoa Beast... calm down, you were so nice earlier. Now you turned into a mad Beast!...lol...j/k

    You are the one who came here to my thread to ask me questions. Did I tell you, you must believe what I believe?...let me answer...no sir I did not.

    Fine, I get it, you don't believe in the Christian religion...so be it. Nobody is here forcing the Christian religion on anyone.

    I didn't make an argument from popularity, all I did was mention the numbers of practicing Christians. I'm not here making arguments for the Christian religion. I'm not here to prove anything. Maybe if you had read my very 1st post on this thread you would have seen my intentions for starting these threads and you wouldn't have erupted into a mad Beast...j/k...again

    Here let me put it up.

    Sorry Beast me no speak Chinese...j/k...again

    Well I'll tell you Beast, if it was up to me I would put evolution topics in the fiction section...yeah I know I'm being a tad biased.

    Ok Beast thanks for your post it was a pleasure for me to respond to it even though you turned into a mad Beast...j/k again.
     

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