Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

There were snake cults all over the ME and India long before Genesis.. They saw in the snake fertility, wisdom and rebirth..

The choice of using the snake in the creation story is about dueling religions.

 

You are right about one thing. Nobody can prove anything to YOU. You are impervious to that.
The rest of us reside on earth.

 

I am NOT saying the extinction of the dinosaur is nonsense. I'm saying, according to the bible, they NEVER existed.
OK, give me a ball park time, history books can at least do that.

 

Do you believe in demons and talking animals?

 

Incorporeal, I didn't think socks were allowed.

 

I think that is the point.
You're in denial of reality.
But if your good, you can get presents under the tree on Dec 25th, but you have to quit with the pride.

 

This post right here is what keeps people who are critical thinkers, both believers and non, coming back to this forum. It is like going to the zoo and seeing a completely different species. We are mesmerized by the total lack of discernment and reason and the outright pride in it. It is fascinating.
No matter what kind of evidence is produced, what kind of data, whatever solid argumentation is made, nothing makes a difference.
Mitt and WanRen >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< and pretend to be comforted by their beliefs, while constantly being aggravated, annoyed, angry and disagreeable.
WanRen rants, but says Christ comforts him.
Mitt fumes, but assures us of the peace of Christ.
It's hard to leave, even though we all know there is absolutely no sense in discussing anything with these people.

 

I watched Inherit the Wind again this afternoon..

You know God gave us a brain and according to the parable of the talents.. He expects us to use it.

 

Yes, I do know that it's a fairy tale. It's on a par with all of the other ancient myths. Do you believe in Jason and the golden fleece? How about Theseus and Hercules?

 

If one likes pounding their head into a wall, then it makes sense.
But I agree, sometimes it just becomes to tempting to let everything slide.

 

This story is base on the historical battle between the Hebrew army lead by Joshua against the Five kings of the Amorites that were threatening city inhabitants of Gibeon a city that has made peace with Joshua that is why the five kings of Amorites decided to destroy Gibeon. Joshua came to support Gibeon and eventually defeated the Amorites. The "sudden stand still of the sun" was instrumental in Joshua's victory because it gave his troops enough time and daylight to reach Gibeon and fight the Amorites.

First of all those tribes mention have all been confirm by present historians as true and the incident of the wars between the Hebrews and Amorites were also true that is how Israel became an establish nation by defeating the other tribes, agree? If you do not agree the validity of this history then there is no point to try to explain the sun standing still phenomena. I will assume you agree, the sun standing still phenomena. Two things to explain this:
1. It was God's omnipotent almighty display of power who else can make the sun and planets stand still for a day with out causing any major catastrophic disaster in the universe, God can do anything, :there is nothing impossible with God" Luke 1:37 37 For nothing is impossible with God.
2. Scientifically, it is possible http://www.fellowtravelerblog.com/2010/06/19/scientific-proof-for-joshuas-missing-day/ or if one does not believe in God they will continue to seek or deny that such a phenomena did happen one thing for sure the Hebrew army of Joshua did defeated the superior combine armies of the Amorites and four other tribes.

Or maybe somehow day light saving time was at its' peak and Joshua knew about the exact time that it was going to be more daylight.

The Temple of Solomon and King Solomon is another real historical fact that proof that the Bible is accurate.

The Bible or the Torah is their own historical narrative it was the Hebrews that introduce the one God compare to the Babylonian who have many gods.

 

The Bible never mention or said anything about dinosaurs not mention in the Bible does not mean they don't exist.
Do you agree that a world wide natural catastrophe is possible according to scientist in fact they predict there will be another one coming?
The position of scientist that a global climatic disaster is possible conforms with the Noah's flood story of global flooding the only issue that is being discuss or debated is the date. If we are to say it is a local event that is also possible because we know that massive flooding can occur in large area of lands in Noah's case their world is within that boundary plus historians have establish that the Bible beginning from the Books of Leviticus to the New Testament are factual.

The ball park time that the dinosaurs disappear according to scientific theories is sometime in the 65 million years ago. And history books about that here;
http://www.lifestudiesonline.com/dinosaurs/extinct.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ong-asteroid-hit-planet-claim-scientists.html
http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/microsites/dino/02-dinosaur-extinction-theories/climate-change.html

As you can see scientist do agree and accept that such natural calamity of massive proportion can globally occur and they predict it can occur again.

 

There you go again, you have no way of reasonably defend your none sense so you go on personal attacks again you talk about evidence here is a very simple one which I believe your simple brain should be able to answer with a simple yes or no..do you believe in the existence of the Temple of Solomon yes or no??
Do you believe in the existence of the 12 tribes of Israel yes or no?
Do you believe in the existence of the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and its destruction?
Do you believe in the existence of Jericho?
Do you believe that the Assyrian, Babylonians, Persians and Romans conquered Israel and exiled thousands of Jews as mention in the Bible yes or no?
Do you believe that all of those are part of the Bible yes or no?
>>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< let us try to get it some positive points.

 

Well...since Dinosaurs existed until 65 Million years ago....and our most ancient of Human ancestors exist only as far back as about 5 Million Years ago....and since Modern Humans....Cro-Magnon...which were basically about the same as we are...Homo sapiens...existed only as far back as 160,000 to 200,000 years ago....and Homo Sapiens about 35,000 to 50,000 years ago....any Book that makes up the Bible or any other Religious Text is not going to be talking about Dinosaurs.

The Flood Story comes from the event 5600 years ago when the land mass separating the salt water Med. Sea from the Fresh Water Black Sea collapsed and since the Med was at a higher elevation if flowed into the Black Sea basin at a rate anywhere from 100 to 1000 times the flow rate of Niagara Falls causing a massive flood.

But it is completely IMPOSSIBLE even if all the Ice Packs on Earth were to melt for all land masses to be covered with water....perhaps only about 5 percent or less would be covered if this happened.

It is also...IMPOSSIBLE to place a male and female of every species of life on a BOAT!!! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

I can't. I'm too stupid.
What was the question?
I gotta go. The Price Is Right is on.

 

65 million years is the estimate I have heard. .. Maybe Moses didn't remember them.

 

The flood story most likely comes from a river flood on the Euphrates in 2900 BC.

 

And that is an idea that also fails to account for the similar stories from other cultures around the world.

Im not one who has studied comparative mythology, but it seems to me that stories of invincible warriors,
dragons, little people, giants, sea monsters, god kings, god kings who die and will come back, and
many other themes are to be found all around the world.

Is there some reason the flood story in the bible, alone among the similar flood stories should be the one that has some thin strand of basis to it?

A friend of my dad had a story from an native american reservation in the USA. The local account was that the two hills near the town were from a rock being carried by a giant. He dropped it, and the smaller
hill was the top broken off the bigger one.

One of the men laughed about it, telling that its not an old story, his grandmother thought it up when he was a boy, and asked where the hills came from. Years later, she told him she'd made it up.... after the story had spread and was being told to all the kids.

 

The story from Sumer is verified by a layer of flood sediment and the Sumerian Kings List.

 

That is fine; the Yellow River, and some few others also have "layers of flood sediment".
And no doubt there are some stories about how it went when there were big floods.
The existence of many layers of sediment does not "verify" the story about the flood. It just says there was a flood.

It is certainly possible the Hebs picked up a story, and then did a G Washington's hatrchet-job on
it until the only thing that was in the original was the word "water".

I dont think you could show the provenance for the story to show that it definitely came from a river flood.
The G Wash. hatchet problem kind of breaks the chain, you know?

 

There have always been local floods .. all over the world.

But the Sumer story is intriguing because it also shows up much earlier than Genesis and in the clay tablets of Dilmun, Babylon and the Ugarit.

Most scholars think it morphed into the Gilgamesh epic. They also think that it happened in the spring of 2900 BC when snowmelt from the mountains combined with unseasonable rains. to flood an area 135 miles wide and 300 miles south towards the delta and Bahrain.

 

There you go again, you have no way of reasonably defend your none sense so you go on personal attacks again you talk about evidence here is a very simple one which I believe your simple brain should be able to answer with a simple yes or no..do you believe in the existence of the Temple of Solomon yes or no??
Do you believe in the existence of the 12 tribes of Israel yes or no?
Do you believe in the existence of the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and its destruction?
Do you believe in the existence of Jericho?
Do you believe that the Assyrian, Babylonians, Persians and Romans conquered Israel and exiled thousands of Jews as mention in the Bible yes or no?
Do you believe that all of those are part of the Bible yes or no?
>>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< let us try to get it some positive points.

Finally, for once you are being honest! Thank you.