Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

Yes, we were created and that is a good news at least now you accept that you are created in God's image. And where did we evolve where was it mention? In Genesis 1,
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

The evolution of man, earth and beast begun.

 

How do you get around the fact that the Earth and Dinosaurs existed millions of years before man? Why did god create Dinosaurs first and let them live and thrive on the earth for a period of time man could only hope to match?

 

WanRen: Tell me your view of the Rapture. I'm a Southern Baptist (and Baptists tend to believe in the rapture)....but I don't see scripture pointing that direction. Are you Catholic?? What is the Catholic viewpoint?

 

We needed the fertilizer.
And the oil.

 

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Who is turning their back on reason, not me.

Most of the post here are not about challenging the Bible it is about anti Bible, anti God and anti Christ. That is why my faith has evolve ever stronger because I have learn a lot more about God, I guess I should thank them because if it wasn't for them I wouldn't have realize and evolve to truly learn more about God and what ever preconception or misinformation I have before has now become more truthful in other words I have become more enlighten.

They actually found the answers and realize that it is more important to spend and devout their entire life time to God.
Others will do both, to serve and protect God.

 

so you are saying that there is no theories that scientist got it all wrong that according to you our ancestors are definitely ape? If that is the case then you should raise your concern with the science world not here or to me.

Primate
From your own link that you contradict:

primate, in zoology, any mammal of the group that includes the lemurs, lorises, tarsiers, monkeys, apes, and humans. The order Primates, with its 300 or more species, is the third most diverse order of mammals, after rodents (Rodentia) and bats (Chiroptera).

It did not say primates are apes that include it said primates that include; apes and humans are separate not ape = humans.

And humans.

No, you and your type of humans are part of the Great Ape family, not humans of my kind we are not part of the great ape family.

You and your kind of humans, not mine we are of the human primate not the ape group.

 

So you called that a definite claim that humans evolve from ape?? you should stop lying to yourself. Darwin's statement is very clear "ape-like" not ape, not for sure ape just ape like.

http://ideas.repec.org/a/eee/jeborg/v71y2009i1p10-19.html
In the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin says little about human evolution, other than to assert firmly that we humans did evolve and are part of the interrelated natural world along with all other organisms. However this should not conceal Darwin's great interest in the topic, a matter to which he turned in his Descent of Man (published 12 years after the Origin), where he made very clear the natural processes leading to Homo sapiens, dwelling at length on the special role of the secondary mechanism of sexual selection. In the Descent, Darwin makes it very clear that he thinks human thinking and actions, especially in the moral realm, have an evolutionary origin just as much as our physical nature.

Every scholars agree that Darwin was seating in the fence when it comes to human evolution.

 

Maybe because he refuse to recognize the pharaoh's authority, naming the pharaoh will be giving him credit for something he is not deserving. Moses grew up in the palace of the pharaoh so he might have been consider a step son or a favored palace resident?

 

Did I say that was a definitive claim that humans evolved from apes? You claimed that Darwin "would not accept that humans evolve from apes". I see no indication of that in any of his works and he explicitly states that we evolved from ape-like creatures, so I see no dismissal of the possibility that we evolved from non-modern apes. Furthermore, Darwin isn't a controlling authority on the modern evolutionary theory or on the history of human evolution since he didn't have the evidence that we do 150 years later.

 

If the Hebrews were not in Egypt during that time then the logical answer is the pyramids were build by an assortment of slaves and none slaves. For sure someone build the pyramids the evidence is clearly there.

 

So you claim that Moses died in 2488? The Bible did not say what year Moses died it only said he died at the age of 120.

 

YOU claimed that Moses died in 2488. Can you not even remember what you said?

 

You are right, that Darwin did not have the evidence 150 years ago and we still don't have it. What we have for sure is that humans and apes are distinctly different. and the theory I repeat the THEORY is that common ancestor a primate is not sure whether it is a human or ape like the theory is it is a primate neither human or ape.

And I believe humans or if you don't like to be lump into my generalization humans like me evolve from ancient human primate.

Nope, can't remember I never made such claim I did however made claim about the resurrection and the Bible time frame nothing about the exact year of Moses death. If ever there is ayear it must be from a reference website not from my personal opinion or words.

 

in your dreams, sunshine

I appreciate that believing we're 'anti-god' makes your god seem more real, but you're overstating the matter by a factor of about ... ten. it's not logical or indeed, possible, to be anti something that isn't real. it's a bit like saying someone is 'anti-navi', if they didn't like Avatar (which I didn't, ftr. hated it like poison). if we find Avatar a load of crap, that doesn't make the blue people real, and therefore hate-able. there isn't even a logical link there, so how you come up with yours is anyone's guess. must be, after all, the need for substantiation.

 

Homo Sapiens evolved 400,000 years ago. The first primate evolved 85 million years ago.

 

ape/monkey/gibbon/gorilla/chimp/w'teva. you've sunk into absurd semantics. aka, you have monkey issues

 

I don't know would have been perfectly acceptable. You don't have to make up answers you don't know. It is ok.

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So no exodus then?
You skipped my Q?

 

Stop being ignorant. It was you that made the claim of moses' death in 2488.
http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-questions-christianity-2.html#post1062356151

Why did you make this claim? What is the source for your statement.

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He didn't even have to remember as he responded to my post which had his direct quote in it.
I can't tell if he's a pathological liar or a deeply confused individual.
If he's in his 80s or 90s or older, that would explain alot.

 

He skipped right over the question. About if the hewbrew slaves helped build the pyramids. Kinda rude.

 

Yes you. You are making assumptions about my faith that aren't supported by my posts. You assume that if someone finds fault in the Bible they can't have faith.
Challenging the Bible isn't anti God. It's pro truth, and accuracy, and honesty and integrity, in spite of where that may lead.
It takes courage to follow that path, without someone to tell you where it will lead, or to mislead you as to outrageous explanations that only one that has abandoned reason in favor of blind faith could swallow.

 

Quote Posted by Akhlut:

It's found in pretty much all birds and mammals and many other animals as well, so it's not really unnatural
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Homosexuality is unnatural and will always be unnatural in human beings. The homosexual movement's attempt to establish that homosexuality is in accordeance with human nature, by proving its animal homosexuality theory, is based more on mythologial beliefs and erroneous phlosophical tenets than on science.

 

That's because the modern versions are based on texts far older than the Vulgate, which was written by Jerome and is a translation from a translation of an older version. The Vulgate is hardly where you want to hang your hat for accuracy.

 

Not remotely true. It is based on observed science in hundreds of species.
Don't let your bias embarrass you.

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They, them etc...were never in Egypt..

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4191

This blog makes a good point:

Exodus is just another Bible fable it never happened.

Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/africa/03exodus.html?_r=0

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They, them etc...were never in Egypt..

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4191

This blog makes a good point:

Exodus is just another Bible fable it never happened.

Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/africa/03exodus.html?_r=0

 

You don't seem to be able to differentiate reality from myth, everyone knows that the Avatar and Lord of the Rings are just stories not real. The Bible and God are real no dreams it is very logical that is why you are here trying to distort that fact. I did not come up with it, it came from historical fact.