pedophiles going public

We need to talk about how sex is harmful for children in principle not in it's aspects.

 

Most libs like the term "pervert" even less

 

You don't need evidences for denial, only for claim.

 

Pervert is yet another term that has no meaning.

Ever received oral sex? Be definition, you are a pervert.

 

If you are making the case for homosexuals be advised the same arguments will work for sex with children

 

How it is possible that exactly the same action can be less or more damaging depending not on action itself but on personality of perpetrator? Don't you find this idea is totally perverse?

 

Children cannot give informed consent. I really hope you don't have any of you don't understand the difference between homosexual adults having consensual sex and someone raping a child.

 

I cannot be rational when discussing this kind of stuff. It absolutely disgusts me to the core of my being and I want to have pedophiles killed. One of my best friends when I was a kid was molested by her stepfather, the fat disgusting pig. That guy should have been shot and killed, IMO, and I usually am against capital punishment, but that is my gut instinct when it comes to these filthy excuses for human beings.

Someone once pointed out to me though that if we gave them the DP for it, then there would be a lot more dead kids instead of kids who were sexually assaulted, so unfortunately doing that could have some unintended consequences, but it still doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see them dead.

 

No. Child can wish to have sex it doesn't mean he can to have informed consent.

 

I do not deny them and their conclusion that there is an association between so called sexual abuse in childhood and psychological problems in later life.

 

That is the main problem.

 

The psychological problems usually means they become deviant adults and the cycle continues. Deviants don't exactly announce themselves.
Bottom line...children aren't mature enough to engage in sexual acts. (in any form!)

 

1. Wrong.
2. You don't need to be mature to engage in sexual acts.

 

That is only yours (and my) opinion

Any liberal judge can say otherwise and there is nothing you can do about it

 

Last I checked it was over half.
If you were referring to having the "body parts" for sexual activity you might have a point. Children are under developed in every way for sexual activity.
Id put teens in the category of simply not being mature enough. Boys being overly horny and girls having low esteem attention seeking issues.

Children however, are a whole different enchilada.

 

Oh. As long as they don't touch.

 

There is no such thing as "developed for sexual activity".

 

Actually, its objective truth supported by mounds of psychological studies.

 

Thats the argument from groups like NAMBLA- 'make it legal so we dont have to kill your kids after we have sex with them' (which infers that their right to child sex is more important to them than the childs right to live).

They're evil.

 

Not really. When an adult is going after a child for sex, they're using coercion. They're using their influence over the child to get what they want out of the child. They're abusing the authority that they have from the parents teaching their children need to mind their elders.

Teenagers getting their freak on is a different matter. They're starting to feel the biological urges inherent in us when we hit puberty. Boys aren't stinky booger-brains and girls aren't cootie-infested annoyances anymore. They're something else...something alluring. And they make the nether regions feel a bit funny when they notice them. When Teens get at it...they're exploring their bodies and their sexualities. They're trying to sort out their feelings. If we've done our jobs right as parents, they've been given the explanations of why it's better to wait until they're adults...and if they choose not to listen to such advice...they've also hopefully been given the knowledge and the tools on how to keep safe. And there's usually consent.

Now it may or may not be as informed as we'd like...but two teenagers are more likely to be doing it out of love or at least mutual lust than say...John Q. Pedophile looking for a child to stick it in so he can get his rocks off.

 

No groups like NAMBLA never expressed nothing like this. Besides that is completely false argument, because there is no statistical correlation between number of children killed after rape and toughening of adverted laws.

 

That's splitting hairs. Yes a child of any age...even an infant can be forced into a sexual act. But there is a huge difference between having a convenient hole to stick it in and the ability to engage in sexual activities on one's own. That usually happens around...oh I don't know...puberty?

By that reasoning...Two sofa cushions can be considered "developed for sexual activity.

 

It disgusts me no end as well. But I try to be rational about it because irrationality has caused far more problems than it's helped solve.

And I'd wish many unpleasant things to happen to those who molest and abuse little children. Especially people like your friend's stepfather. Castration by 12-gauge shotguns filled with a mix of bird shot and rock salt appeals to me. However I do distinguish between the pedophile and the predator. There are pedophiles who don't act on their urges. Just as many homosexuals didn't act on theirs since until relatively recently...that too was a really huge taboo.

Often illegal.

And remember that they were considered just as sick and perverse. More so even because we had terms for homosexuality. Pedophile and Child Molester are comparatively recent additions to our language.

That particular catch 22 is the real pain in the arse. If we up the stakes, they up the stakes. We lower the stakes and children are psychologically damaged.

 

Baseless claim, it's far more common among inexperienced youths.

If they will teach them to run across highway, it doesn't mean we have to forbid cars. You don't have to mind elders unless they are your parents or teachers. I believe that equal relationships and friendship between children and adults is possible and desirable. They don't need to be always authority/subordinate type of relationships, they don't need to be in most cases.

How love or mutual lust make consent more informed? How makes them less susceptible to STD's or pregnancy risk, or whatever, how it makes it better?

 

jfc this thread has gotten infuriating to read.