Pelosi to Receive Planned Parenthood Award Honoring Eugenicist

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Sanger set up a clinic in Harlem & later in parts of the South @ the invitation of Black community leaders. Sanger worked with whoever wanted birth control information: Jewish, Irish, Black, Catholic, Protestant, etc. - her goal was to get the information, devices & later oral BC out. W.E.B. Du Bois served on the board of the Harlem clinic, & M.L. King, Jr. received a Sanger award in 1962, I believe it was. Surely they were Black enough for anybody, & knew perfectly well what the clinics were doing - & they approved & supported the educational work that Sanger was doing.

 

What a kind and honorable thing for the Catholic Church to do to help these poor women!

Praise the Lord!

 

Not at all....Some Republicans, then - not now obviously - support the many well-intentioned projects of the organization. The flirtation with eugenics was brief and almost a hundred years ago, Sanger's been dead for nearly fifty years.

Give it up, ok? If you want to oppose Planned Parenthood and shut it down because of all the help it does, feel free to contact your congressional and state representatives. Just show a little intelligence, not ignorance, by used Sanger or eugenics as an excuse.

 

What an amazing outpouring of drivel from the left. They rigorously support Planned Parenthood and then loudly deny the very purpose of it - killing human beings in their mothers' wombs. All in the name of compassion.

 

Who said i want to shut down Planned ParentHood??

Anything else you want to make up?

 

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Yah, well, the point of PP is birth control. Abortion is a late-comer, PP didn't start advocating abortion until the early 1960s, TMK. Sanger began with disseminating BC information, devices, techniques. She was never a fan of abortion.

As for killing human beings (referring to the fetus in utero) - the Supreme Court doesn't see it that way. & as long as that's true, the SC will continue to uphold a right to an abortion, within a legal framework set by the states & the federal government.

 

What exactly do you think eugenics in the early 20th century was about? Building diversity?

Informed of a twisted and warped sense of what was actually happening to strengthen support for a vile woman with vile concepts...

PP advocates her ideas every time they offer up an award with her name on it...

 

Was Von Braun and originator and advocate of Nazi policies towards the Jews and the institutionalized? I never read that got something to back it up?

 

ROFL have to pullout the "deny them birth control" canard I see.

How can anyone possibly block their entrance to a Wal-mart or Walgreens or any other clinic or store that offers birth control?

 

Braun was a Nazi, but he was brilliant and brought here by our own liberal democrat leadership. If they want to whine, let them, America was enhanced, and God only knows we did far worse to get what we have. History is a bloody thing, but using what's there is what advances people. Today we are the sole superpower on the planet. What else needs to be said?

 

I'm not sure what your point is here. Planned Parenthood, regardless of Sanger's views, is not and has never been an organization dedicated to genocide or eugenics. It's not very honest to attack PP on the grounds that its founder had some currently unpopular ideas about something else.

 

I really don't understand your viewpoint on this.

How many black babies have been aborted by Planned Parenthood? As opposed to whites?

Why are so many PP offices located in extremely low income areas - that are normally populated by a majority of blacks?

Why are they not located in up-scale neighborhoods?

 

I think the direction they are headed is quite clear

"Planned Parenthood has come out with its annual report, and in it the abortion giant boasted that its affiliates around the nation performed 333,964 of the murderous procedures during 2010-11, up from 332,278 pre-born deaths in 2009, the previous yearly record. The latest number, which represents an abortion performed every 94 seconds, is just one of the many statistics the group crowed about in its just-released report. “We are so proud of the year’s many successes, and deeply grateful for all the partners, sponsors, volunteers, staff and friends who helped make them possible,” the group's president, Cecile Richards, said in a statement.

A fact sheet released with the report noted that among the “services” provided by Planned Parenthood during the reporting period were the distribution of 1.43 million “emergency contraception kits,” which include birth control drugs known to cause abortion in pregnant women who take them. And while the abortion giant oversaw the killing of hundreds of thousands of babies, it could only muster 2,300 adoption referrals over the same time period, which comes out to some 145 abortions for every adoption.

As for other services it boasts, the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List (SBA List) noted that over the past three years, while its revenue has skyrocketed, Planned Parenthood's contraceptive services have dropped by 12 percent and its cancer screenings by 29 percent.

Meanwhile, according to its annual report, in 2010 Planned Parenthood raked in a record $542.4 million in federal, state, and local government funding — nearly half of its $1.2 billion in total revenue. Overall, Planned Parenthood ended the 2010-11 fiscal year with a $87.4 million profit.

According to Fox News, tax dollars accounted for 45 percent of Planned Parenthood's budget in 2010, a 167 percent rise in government funding of the abortion giant in the past 10 years, by one account. While many states are working to defund Planned Parenthood, the fact that the organization is responsible for nearly one million abortions (995,687) over the past three years while receiving billions in government dollars prompted a response of alarm and outrage from pro-life leaders.

“Planned Parenthood has spent much of the last few years demanding that taxpayers add millions more to their coffers, citing their non-profit status and so-called focus on women’s health,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of SBA List. “What have we received for our money? While government subsidies to Planned Parenthood have reached an all time high, so too has the number of lives ended by this profit-driven abortion business. Destroying nearly one million children in three years is not health care and does not reflect a concern for vulnerable women and girls. As Planned Parenthood’s funding goes up, abortions increase and real health services for women go down.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...enthood-tallied-record-abortion-count-in-2010

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I was pointing out the fallacy of your point and yes PP is increasingly engaged in the genocide of killing unborn babies and since as others have cited their services seem disproportionately aimed at minorities............

 

Are these intended to be serious questions? Nobody puts a gun to someone's head and forces them to have an abortion. Abortions are entirely elective. So what you are asking is, why are blacks overrepresented among those electing abortions. I should think it has to do with multiple factors, mostly cultural and economic. But Planned Parenthood does not select who has abortions. They locate their services where they are most needed.

What you have noticed has nothing to do with some evil conspiracy to eliminate blacks, but rather with the results of ignorance, lack of birth control, poor education, and unfortunate cultural factors. Studies have shown that providing free birth control in high-risk black communities has had stunning success in reducing abortion rates. Maybe Planned Parenthood should push birtrh control harder, but abortion accounts for only 3% of their budget anyway.

 

I think "aimed" is a misleading word. Certainly Planned Parenthood attempts to provide their services to the demographics most in need of their services, or where their services are most in demand. But again, abortions (and birth control) are entirely elective. I think Planned Parenthood would be delighted if inner city populations exercised more birth control and less abortion.

 

no they wouldn't they make much more money off abortions then birth control

 

What benefit is there in hundreds of millions of dead fetuses besides making us colder and less human? For years my instinct has told me that abortion as a form of birth control is a mistake for humanity. I have been in several threads warning of the genetic consequences coming down the pipe. In how abortion as a form of birth control, combined with better and better prenatal tests to determine the outcome of the pregnancy is going to lead to less genetic diversity among the species. I just find it interesting that I've thought this for years, well before I heard Sanger was associated with the eugenics movement. The reason it is interesting is that if successful, the eugenics folks would have had the same result for humanity, less genetic diversity.

 

The word is fetus, Not baby, babies, person or children

 

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If PP keeps stats by service by race, I didn't find them.

For a map of US contiguous low-income areas, see http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...DE583D264BC4799CFA70AD2DA5040&selectedIndex=0

For a map of PP health centers, see http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...880234CFFD9C05DF061870D56E732&selectedIndex=2

I don't think of the Dakotas, Nebraska & west of them as having a large Black population, nor west TX, NM, AZ. The heaviest low-income zones seem to be in or bordering the old South.

TMK, PP sites offices where it's convenient for their patients to find & travel to them - bus, subway, etc. & rents/land are probably much less expensive in lower-income areas, plus zoning could be a problem in upscale areas. (There's also the NIMBY factor, but I can't quantify that.) PP's goal is to provide information - historically, the upscale segment of the population had access to birth control information, or if they needed an abortion, the woman in question could travel abroad, deliver or abort, & return home as if nothing had happened.

The economics of providing services demands fairly constant use of facilities & staff in order keep costs down. I think that's why PP tends to have urban centers rather than rural, & urban rather than suburban. But if anyone knows differently, please comment.

 

I wonder if you thought this through as much as you say. OK, so we don't want the children, we don't want the abortions, so we're down to preventing the pregnancies. Let's say we had an ideal world where every pregnancy was wanted. How would we do this? With perfect birth control. Would this be better?

Well, see, the problem is that the pregnancies never conceived would replace the pregnancies aborted. And THAT means that if there is a pattern to contraception matching the pattern to abortion, the result is exactly the same with respect to genetic diversity.

Then again, there is the China experience. The Chinese have implemented a pretty strict birth control, which involves mandatory abortion. You get one child per adult, and that's it. Subsequent pregnancies are aborted by law. But the Chinese culture places far higher value on males, so the advent of determine the sex of a fetus has meant that many Chinese go through a whole series of aborted females to get a male as the one child allowed. Whether this is changing the genetic diversity of the Chinese certainly isn't obvious, but it DOES mean social problems as male teenagers and young adults outnumber females by an increasingly wider margin.

The genetic diversity of a single individual is pretty high. I read somewhere that if all human life were wiped out except for a single tribe of full-blooded Maori in New Zealand, that tribe would STILL contain over 80% of all human genetic diversity.

 

Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated.

 

Last I checked, China was like 54% men, and 46% women. NOT NATURAL. How did they come to arrive in this unnatural state? Abortion by choice. Male/female choice is just the beginning, and it is happening now because it is the easiest to determine early. Our tests will get better, and the access to them will become wider. Other traits will be chosen for. Mark my words.

 

Yes and making they are widely available in those communities and keeping the cost low helps to further Sangers goal. If abortion is NOT the main purpose of Planned Parenthood then why would they be placing so many of their clinics in areas where you say abortion is in the most demand and making it so easily available? They could concentrate on areas where abortion is NOT so in demand.

 

No it is baby just go down to your local shopping mall and stop and ask all the pregnant women is that their baby or their fetus in there.

Or you can check the American Hertigage Dictionary

n. pl. ba·bies
1.
a. A very young child; an infant.
b. An unborn child; a fetus.

I know your position must be very distasteful but you don't get to change the definitions of words. I don't know how I would live with myself if I was pro-abortion and the killing of babies.

Your failure to address my rebuttal noted.

 

Well some places the benefit from keeping warm by using them as fuel.

British government bans burning of fetuses to heat hospitals

SIMON CALDWELL | Catholic News Service
MANCHESTER, England (CNS) — The British government has imposed an immediate ban on the incineration of miscarried and aborted babies after journalists found cases of hospitals burning fetuses to generate heat.

Dr. Dan Poulter, parliamentary undersecretary of state for health, issued a March 24 statement that the burning of fetuses had been instantly prohibited following revelations by a team of investigative reporters working for the Channel 4 television program "Dispatches."
http://www.catholicherald.com/stori...ns-burning-of-fetuses-to-heat-hospitals,25755

Amazing what the pro-abortion side supports.