Pennsylvania moms react to education dept suggesting kids may use 'ne, ve, ze/zie and xe' pronouns

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  1. crank

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    So far we have: "must be English", but then my suggested English pronoun is rejected. You need to carefully detail the precise rules, so that we can be assured no one has just made up any of the 80+ on a whim.
     
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    XYR isn’t reported in this article though.
    It is also in the dictionary and thus an English word.
     
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    They most certainly have complete control over their name. The only trouble are from people who have nothing else to do.
     
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    The pretzel folks

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    I'd argue that they aren't liberals at all, but leftists.
     
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    Op says nothing about teaching this. It says students may make this request.
     
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    How is calling them what they ask, grooming?
     
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    This is the 2022version of “if we allow gay marriage well have to allow siblings to marry and people to marry dogs”
     
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    Other than the genocides, slavery, starvation, disease, pogroms, wars, serfdom, etc.... You are in serious need of a history book. I would recommend reading about what Caesar did to Germans to start. You undermine your own credibility when you make statements that are demonstrably incongruent with history.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37653187-the-celtic-holocaust
     
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    Because it validates the idea that one's fantasies and whims ought to be taken seriously, and sets the kid up for narcissism. Not to mention it validates an overwheening focus on sexual matters at an inappropriate age.

    And yes, I know the grooming defenders like to claim it's not about sex, but ALL of it is coming from adults .. and thus sex is most definitely a part of it. It's a new kind of unconscious or covert paedophilia, and is tied to the unhealthy interests of certain kinds of adults. They don't need to be sexually interested in children personally, to be driven to sexualise children. It's a control thing - a forcing down of the last taboo, compelled by their own narcissism.
     
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    What makes you think those things aren't on the cards? Progressives are already trying to validate 'minor attraction' as just another sexuality. Bet you thought that would never happen either.

    When sick adults get access to the public ear (in this case via the juvenile desire of Progressives to seem sexy and cool, thus embracing any and all things sex), all bets are off.
     
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    Progressivism operates in a world of feelings, prioritized over facts. Realities are based upon individual emotions. Facts, decisions and policies are made based on a collective feelings. Realities are formulated based on creating certain emotions for the collective.

    It's down right dangerous.
     
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    It's the ideology of arrested development. Perpetual teenagerhood.

    Once we reached peak satiation and safety, we decided we didn't need to adult anymore.
     
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    Nothing you described as a reason to oppose it is anything remotely close to grooming.
     
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    And conservatives are trying to preserve a white only America.
    Is that what we’re doing now? Taking the views of a couple fringe loons and claiming that’s how each side thinks? Because it’s idiotic and not helpful. Nobody that anyone listens to thinks sexing up kids is ok. It’s the left who is cancelling folks like Dane cook for dating women half his age and they’re legal. It’s not the left who bragged about watching miss TEEN USA contestants change.
     
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    Tell me more about how trump won lol
     
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    Grooming can happen in the absence of interest in sexual activity with minors - it's crucial to understand that, to see what's actually going on. It can be (and often is), simply a will to remove barriers to even a focus on sexual matters. In this case the desire isn't for sexual congress ... the desire is to remove what is perceived as an oppressive and outdated taboo, restricting the adult's access to full and complete expression of sexuality.

    Children are the last taboo, and in the mind of those who took the 20thC Western concept of sexual liberation literally, that becomes an obstacle they can't tolerate. Not because they want sex with children, but because they cannot stand having anything off limits. They were lead to believe there should be no limits, after all. When the last of these (in the adult world) were dismantled, they hit the wall. They don't like that wall. They've even convinced themselves it's in the childrens' interests - which is actually an important diagnostic feature of the sickness.
     
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    They're selling it to you as a kindness to the kiddies, and you believe them.

    Acknowledging only overt paedophilia is a terrible thing. You're actually defending very unsound adults, in so doing.
     
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    Pronouns aren’t sexual. Is it sexual to call me a him?
     
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    First they advocate it openly, now it’s secret? Make up your mind. Calling a kid he or she is not remotely sexual.
     
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    That's exactly what they want you to think. Probably what they themselves think, also. THAT'S the problem.
     
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    You just used a pronoun…should I be worried?
     
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    No they don’t. You do not have the right to make up rights out of thin air just to support your BS arguments. There is no right to be addressed any way you see fit. Doesn’t exist. Stop making up BS.
     
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    Yet again we have leftists fail at basic persuasion.

    1) can’t even define or quantify the problem. It simply exists and we must believe it’s a huge problem that is in desperate need of a solution.

    Fail.

    2) propose a solution so overbearing, confusing, impractical and virtually impossible to incorporate into everyday life and pretend that it’s no big deal.

    Fail.

    3) support policies that punishes anyone who fights back against the stupidity of #1 and the impossibility of #2, ironically proving they are the ones who are nothing more than rigid, authoritarian and cult-like dogmatic nut jobs.

    Fail.

    go home leftists. You have nothing worth saying and therefore nothing worth hearing about.
     
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    Yes they do !!
     

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