Pensioner died because Muslim nurse was praying'

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  1. SiliconMagician

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    The patient yes, the nurse giving the care to the patient can pay for her own (*)(*)(*)(*) medical care that conflicts with the beliefs of the organization she works for. She isn't suffering or losing access to anything.
     
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    ??? what does that have to do with this?

    we were comparing religious people denying others services for religious reasons, like the morning after pill, ect....

    in this case the nurse made this patient wait 5 minutes because of their religion, in the case of a pharmacist they make them go somewhere else for services their employer offers, if they do not want to sell what their employer offers, get a job somewhere else rather then losing a sale for their employer

    and really in this case, she was under observation for some time after that it seems like, but died a few hours later, 5 min really made no difference at all in this case, but could in another
     
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    Do you know that for sure? No. It is likely the nursing staff has a set of guidelines which is to only call for EMT's with the consent of the senior staff.

    No she is dead because the head nurse on duty did not do his job which was to drop what he was doing and attend to the needs of the bloody patient, do you know what malpractice is? Do you know what a wrongful death due to negligence lawsuit is? Well this "nurse" will know very soon as will his employers.
     
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    Do you know what the inability to pick up the phone is? That is what this is about. The idiots nurses could have ignored protocol and called the ambulance. Do you always do what the boss tells you if you know they are wrong, and allowing them to do something their way would result in injury or death?
     
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    Do you know what employee regulations are? In all likelihood they are instructed not to call EMT's without the approval of the senior staff that is why they are the junior staff they do not have the training to know when it is a serious medical emergency warranting a trip to the emergency room.

    Generally I try not to cost my employers thousands of dollars in possibly unnecessary medical expenditures and get my ass fired by disobeying employee regulations, they are there for a reason and it is the head nurse on call who violated those regulations by not dropping what he was doing and immediately attending to his patient.
     
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    He should be fired and probably sued for negligence.

    Though I wonder why the other people couldn't pick her up.
     
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    If this happened as described, then this certainly ought to get the nurse fired and a possible criminal case.

    As for comparison to morning-after pill being refused by a pharmacist, it is a faulty analogy. Morning-after pill is not an emergency.
     
  8. Abu Sina

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    and you would not see elderly parents thrown into 'care homes' in the Muslim countries either

    to me that is the amazing thing about this story

    How easily the West disposes of it's elderly parents into these type of places and I am sure that there must be thousands of stories of horror and abuse and murder in those places where they treat the unwanted rejected elderly Western parents .

    Should I spend the week posting some of it here ? :chew:
     
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    Im sorry but based on your posts, I find this very hard to believe. Unless your employed by Spencer/Geller?
     
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    If you see a fire, with a bucket of water in your hand, and somebody tells you to wait for the fire department, would you drop the bucket and leave, or put the fire out yourself?
     
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    Learn what happened.

    The ambulance wasn't called because she was fine after falling, 4 hours later she was found unresponsive. 4 hours after the fall.

    And I doubt a NURSING HOME would have such a policy.
    Infact, it has already been mentioned, the policy is that juniour nurses can make their own decisions in these cases, the juniour nurses didn't know that until after.

    No, she passed away from internal damage as a result of the fall, which Bhutto did not cause nor could he of prevented, regardless if he was praying or not, because elderly people do tend to fall more frequently.
     
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    You know, thats a solid point.

    I would never put my parents, especially not my grandparents in nursing homes. They looked after me when I needed them, I will return the favour when they need me.

    There are many bad things that happen in nursing homes across the world, some are even like "prisons". You would probably find a lot of them. But you have to also take into account some probably are kept secret.
     
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    exactly

    if they had been in Muslim countries they would have been at home with their families looking after them and not in some building far from their own home and family and community with ungrateful busy children PAYing some agency strangers to look after them!

    that's what's really disgusting!

    that's where the focus should be!

    billions probably spent on disposing of elderly in homes once their selfish kids think they are no longer 'useful' to them!
     
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    The issue is not black and white. Proportion of elderly people is considerably higher in western countries. Aslo, often nursing homes provide much better care at the hands of professionals than at home, particularly if the elderly person has many special needs due to poor health.

    Of course, I dont deny some people use such institutions to "put away" their aging parents that have become a burden. That is really disgusting.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeap. For sure. And much better off they'd be, in some rat infested hut in some desert. But hey, muslim home is his palace... but why do they then immigrate to UK in droves? Why are they running away from the Paradise?

    Ah yes... to convert UK into a muslim paradise... :heart:

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  16. Abu Sina

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    why post photo of a poor Hindu woman and her children?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing misses your sharp eye, eh? OK, you got me - the photo is not of a real arab muslim with blue blood of sheiks... the photo is of Indian muslim. Is she not a muslim enough for you? Sorry, from now on I'll try and only post photographs of true arab muslims, not indian or african or some other un-pure half-breeds :frustrated:

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    You have not proved that but regardless he could have cleared that all up if he had quit praying to his pedophile prophets false god to check on his patient.

    She sat bleeding for 10 minutes that is blatant negligence and the nursing home now finds itself in a very actionable position for hiring this savage to tend to the sick and vulnerable.
     
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    lol, yes we know one of the several unequal wives barred from the workforce would have been able to take care of her. :roll:

    If you want to shift focus from the topic at hand which IMO is Islamic Imperialist swine having no place in the western workforce, then fine let's shift it to the fact that the life expectancy in your country is ten years less than that of the U.K. so we won't be taking any tips for how to take care of our families from you people thank you very much.
     
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    It all happened in a British private nursing home for the elderly. It happened during the night . (when as I understand it, prayers are not required) Such establishments are notoriously poorly staffed, so it is highly likely that the RN was the ONLY nurse on duty, with a sprinkling of unregistered care assistants providing personal care. He is an agency nurse, meaning he is not a regular employee, but might only have been there for that night.
    The care assistants should have been well aware of their option to call an ambulance, especially if there was an agency nurse in charge, who was unfamiliar with patients and procedures. They were certainly confident enough to defy the nurse's instruction to put her to bed, but not only that to wash and dress her in the middle of the night (not good for a dementia sufferer's confused state) and then leave her unsupervised in the lounge where she was later found. (if she was being observed, they wouldn't have "found" her) She could have fallen again unseen, and got herself back into a chair, having sustained the fatal injury then.
    Whether the nurse was praying or not is irrelevant it can have made no difference to the outcome, a week after the fact.
     
  23. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My young, naive sock puppet... I have news for you - I would put two women before you, and if it was not for hijab, you would not know which one if muslim, if any, and which one is hindu.

    Here, look at the video here and pay particular attention to it at 1:47 - if not for hijab, you would not be able to say which girl is a muslim.

    http://www.muslimtvchannel.com/2012/02/hindus-and-muslims-preserve-art-of-zari.html

    Here's another resource for you - scroll down to "Poverty Among Muslims in India" and look at pics - this is how Indian muslims look like.

    http://www.siddeeqeenshuhadaa.com/2011/08/islam-solves-world-poverty.html

    Being the lightweight that you are, you bore me, son. :bonk:
     
  24. Abu Sina

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    If you like to joke and make fun of poor Indian women and their children then at least get the photo right.

    Here is one you can enjoy laughing at and put up on your wall.

    3 Muslim and 2 Hindu

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    excellent points

    and by the way to the one who talks of life expectancy my grandfather is 95 from a long line of family who live long healthy lives.
    He is still living in his own house, active, and family are there every day to spend time with him, cook, chat, his house is rarely empty of family and his friends and neighbours.
    He's not dumped in a care home with strangers 'caring' for him. To do that is just disgusting in my opinion.
     

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