Pentagon Alarmed With Russia’s Military Satellite 'Maneuvering Too Much'

The United States can use either B-2's or F-22's to deliver Non-Nuclear EMP's directly to target and Russian Radar cannot track these.

A B-2 Stealth Bomber can carry a large number of Non-Nuclear EMP's and an F-22 which can carry two 1000 lbs JDAM's internally can also carry 2 EMP's.

The U.S. WOULD NEVER use a Balistic Missile to carry EMP's for fear Russia might think it was a Nuke.

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Try reading history from an Eastern Orthodox perspective, and not a Western one. The attacks on Russia and the Orthodox world in general started with the split in the Churches, and the aggression of the West as they tried to expand Eastwards, and the aggression of the Mongols and Ottomans as they tried to expand Westwards.

That Russia has remained relatively intact is to its credit, since it had incorporated so many ethnicities and religions. Today there are over one hundred different languages spoken in the Russian Federation, and in addition to the Russian Orthodox Church, there are large enclaves of Muslims, and Buddhists.

 

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This is no surprise. The US is dependent upon GPS, to deny or severely degrade GPS to a specific region just take out a few select GPS satellites and all those GPS dependent smart weapons are no longer so smart, all that battle management technology is no longer working so well, troops and vehicles no longer just go to a GPS co-ordinate, planes and helicopters are no longer so simple to fly and co-ordinate.

Or take out a critical communications satellite, it doesn't even have to be the prime one in use, take out a secondary comm link and force the primary to overload.

No doubt people paid to come up with this stuff can see a lot more vulnerabilities than I can.

 

Obama, Congress and the Senate are now keen on war and gay marriage. They have no time to engage in the space program.

 

You have a lack of education. Therefore, you do not understand that Russian is always ready for war. To protect his country. But the Russian - very peaceful people. .... You have to raise their level of education. You need to read more. . Try to learn to think. This will be useful for you.

 

I agree with you. Pentagon - very biased news source.

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As far as I know you would rather believe the lie of Western media.

 

Bravo !!!

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You start to learn to think.

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You're right.

 

Right.... Dividing Poland with Hitler was "protecting the country"? How about the post-war invasion of Czechoslovakia and Poland, the occupation of Germany, the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Georgia, the invasion of Ukraine? None of them is your country.

 

Then why do you trust the US media?

 

Yes, indeed. The Allied intervention or expedition force that was unleashed in 1918.

Respect. Not many people are even aware of this nowadays. And fewer still are aware that it was the Brits who betrayed the White Russians leader Admiral Kolchak in the battle for Moscow circa 1919 by hindering/stpping the supply of essential weapons and war material - effectively allowing the Bolsheviks to be the victors. And oddly, the vast wealth in gold and treasures of the Romanov's - 40 train wagon loads - mysteriously disappeared along the British controlled railroads and ended up in China.

 

its not owned by the government, and extremely varied in its opinions.

if you pay attention to ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, CNN, the NY Times, the Washington Post, you will have a good understanding of the world.

Sputnik and RT? not soo much.

 

I would not say Russians are peaceful, in last century Russia invaded aggressively Finland,Poland, Afghanistan, Czech Republic, and Hungary.

 

Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, all were part of Russia before WW1.

 

Sputnik is government owned, RT not. The BBC is government owned, Sky not. France 24 is state owned. The point I'm making is that there is more history of public service and state owned media in Europe than in the US. This does not impair propaganda output anymore than privately owned media corporations.

But the western (and particularly the US) media are largely owned by oligarchs and the elite who shape US and western policy. Why you fall for their propaganda news, therefore, is quite easily understood.

 

so why do YOU accept propaganda from Russian-owned and controlled media?

and btw, RT is 50% state funded.

The Russian government chooses the editor-in-chief for RT.

this form of government intervention and control of news media, is reminiscent of the Nazis.

 

But US were peaceful? Don't blame others for something what your own country did not better ... or in other words: Don't throw a stone if sitting in a glassy green house!
Think about cuba, Vietnam, Chile, Niceragua, Honduras, Panama, Iraq and many more ... and don't tell that these examplrs were well reasoned, because then Russian examples you named are same way too

 

Okay. But I still ask you so what? In the US the Corporation of Public Broadcast is 95% state funded. I've mentioned the BBC and France 24 too.

The point I repeatedly make and you repeatedly ignore is that all state engage in propaganda and yet you only ever mention Russian propaganda. Bias bleeds out of your every pore.

Nonsense. It's commonplace as stated above. But if you wish to speak of Nazis you need to look closely to your home nation. After all, it was complicit in helping around 40,000 of the very worst Nazis, from death camp commandments to legions of SS and figures such as Dr. Mengele, the "Angel of Death" in Auschwits - and a host of other nazi war criminals - to escape along the Vatican run Ratlines at the end of WWII. The idea was for them to fight on the behalf of the US against the Soviet Union in the cold war. This is not to mention the many hundred - probably thousands - of Nazis who were secretly brought to the US to live and work post WWII under Pentagon auspices. One of the senior commanders of the Ukrainian SS Galician divisions, guilty of murdering women and children in the destruction of a village, was recently found living in peace, aged 94, in Minnesota.

So no sermonizing about Nazis from you please, Ronstar. You don't have the right.

 

Words. Who knows what would actually happen?

 

I never claimed the US was/is peaceful, I was refuting the claim that Russia is/was.

 

haha!!!! does the White House choose the editors and heads of PBS? NPR?

no they do not.

Moscow's involvement and intermingling and intervention in sooo many state-owned media in Russia, is disturbing.

you'd think they would have learned from the Nazis and Soviets. But instead, they mimic them.

doing a good job too.

no true democracy has such an intimate and controlling relationship between news media and government.

Russia's democracy, their economic wealth, is all smoke and mirrors.

 

GPS satellites orbit about 20,000 kilometers above the surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_(satellite)

The Cosmos 2504 orbits at about 1,500 kilometers:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm

It poses no threat to the GPS systems.

 

Maybe that particular satellite poses no threat, maybe its a demonstration system at low orbit and using its first stage as a reference point because that's an easy environment for scoring and monitoring its performance.

Maybe its maneuvering close to the first stage because its demonstrating precise maneuvering capability not so it can grab another satellite but to demonstrate precise positioning so it can inject (fire) a small object into the orbit of another satellite. If one satellite has precise positioning, and knows the precise orbit of its target satellite, it does not need to be near the target satellites orbit to shoot a small object into the path of the target.

And its a lot easier and faster to get a bunch of satellites into low orbit than a handful into medium orbit like GPS.

The point is that nobody should be surprised that other nations have been working on anti-satellite technology, and have been for many years.

 

Of course. But high-orbit satellites are hard to attack. It's not that simple to mount a small projectile on a low-orbit satellite and fire it into high orbit. You need the projectile, enough fuel and propellant to get the projectile into higher orbit, and some sort of guidance system. Those are fairly daunting payload requirements.

Plus there are 30 GPS satellites, and you'd need to take out at least 6 of them to disrupt the network. And the disruption would only last about 1.5 hours, and GPS weapons have backup inertial-guidance systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon#Limits_of_ASATs

Yes, the weaponization of space is something to be concerned about, and pay attention to. But there doesn't appear to be any current credible threat to the GPS systems.

 

All true. But I was not clear, I meant its a lot cheaper to test in low orbit.

Most modern precision weapons have an integrated INS/GPS system, but are dependent upon either GPS or a seeker for accuracy. With a complete loss of GPS, tactical systems relying on their inertial navigation system have nowhere near the accuracy they have with GPS. Even when the launch aircraft has GPS or a good navigation solution to initialize the weapon, if the tactical weapon does not have GPS after launch then the precision guided munition is no longer precise unless it has a seeker.

And all the battle management systems that coordinate troops and provide the targeting for those weapons rely on GPS. GPS is how M-1's and Strykers and all those vehicles know where they are and provide that information to the management systems, that's how a squad of soldiers in the field generates a target coordinate for an air strike.

Take all that away and its back to old school - maps and compass. And outside of forward air controllers, artillery, and special forces, those skills are very, very rusty.

We won't really know until a war starts. The US is dependent upon GPS, its obvious to everyone, and to think that America's enemies won't work to take advantage of that is naïve. Its the same with stealth, the US advertises its reliance on stealth, its a given that other nations are (and have been for a long time) working on counter stealth technologies.