People are not racists because they DO racist things...

Your "Be definition ..." excludes the real fact that minorities can be racist against the majority. I used to tell Cornell Williams he had this wrong. He and those who support him will always be wrong.

 

I wasn't even going to respond to this obvious "I did a google search for: reverse racism isn't real", but then I realized that there's some irony here. You sent these links in response to my doubt that "this has always been the definition" (We were always at war with Eurasia). These links presumably were supposed to show that your definition has always been the accepted one, but the earliest of these is Oct 2015, right about when we all started to notice that the far left was trying to foist their new "get out of jail free" definition upon us.

 

I would love to have Trump impeached and removed from office, but if the charges of high crimes and misdemeanors are not substantial for the American public and bipartisan, impeachment will end in failure in the Senate and likely would cause Trump's reelection because of Democratic overreach.

Don't underestimate the Republican spin machine. They are very good at it.

Tell me, as it stands now and confirmed yesterday in the House, meaning Republican solidarity for Trump, why impeach if there is no chance Senate conviction?

I would love to ask that question of representatives in the House who voted for impeachment today, 89 of them.

And Green's impeachment bill was racial and ludicrous. Trump is a racist, but that is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

 

They couldn't even get the majority of the democrats in the house to vote for it. 332-95-1.

 

“So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."

"If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave."

"These are people that in my opinion hate our country."

Those statements were made by the President of the United States, a man whose Constitutional duty is to unite the country, but he is bent on dividing the country with his racist and incendiary comments.

Trump proved his commitment to dividing our country today. “Well, let's put it this way,” Trump said in an interview with DailyMail.com “I’m not unhappy.” Translating the double negative, Trump said he was happy with the comments he made that started the swirling controversy.

Later, Trump confirmed his happiness with reporters. “I’m not relishing the fight, I’m enjoying it because I have to get the word out to the American people,” Trump said. The sentence doesn't make much sense because the English language has always been a challenge for Trump, but he said he was enjoying the divisiveness he caused with his racist comments.

When a man doubles down, then triples down, then quadruples down on racist statements he made, it has to dawn on even the most uninformed of us that the man is a racist.

 

Who wants to " push Israel into the sea " ?

Are there evidence of this ?

 

Absolutely not! First of all because I have no idea what "the Daily Stormer" is. I would read your arguments. And if I need to verify them, I would go and see whatever it is you want me to look at. But you make your arguments. Don't wait for the website to make them for you. If I go there and start seeing stories about how Obama was brought from Kenya to Hawaii on a flying saucer the day after he was born, I would probably point out the credibility issues. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.. Of course, don't point me to "Opinion" pages. Opinions are opinions. But do point me to factual pages that support your arguments, and I will definitely take a look.

And if you have three or four different websites all stating the same, from very different periods and in very different ways, as I did. And not just parroting each other, I will most definitely pay attention to it.

When I send a myriad of links, all arriving at the same conclusion. Each using different points of view and different arguments. And you dismiss them as "lie", that is a "Conspiracy Theory". I have submitted many links on this discussion.

Now let me tell you this. Every single right winger who has tried to lecture me on anything, especially my "sig" has not ended the discussion in embarrassment. So I would not encourage it.

I guess only if you are over 20 or so would you recall that a racist, in the U.S. was always somebody who disparaged people who are not white Christians. Could be blacks, Jews, Hispanics,...

But it absolutely is true. The following is the definition by the American Association of Physical Anthropologists. Which is basically what I said and what the links I submitted say, but in a more "scientific" lingo.

"Racism is prejudice against someone because of their race in the context of a belief in the inherent superiority and inferiority of different racial groups, which is reinforced by institutional and historical structures."
https://physanth.org/about/position-statements/aapa-statement-race-and-racism-2019/
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There are not "institutional and historical structures" in the United States that support racism against whites. None whatsoever

No! Not as a general rule. Because a dictionary attempts to capture the many different meaning of a words as used by people.

However, that may be irrelevant in this discussion, as most dictionaries have accurate definitions of the term. Quote what you are referring to. Make your point!

You want to discuss publications. I want to discuss arguments and facts. That should give people a clue as to which one of us is looking for a serious debate, and which one, not so much...

 

Why is Trump doing this? The answer is obvious. Trump needs to mask his failures.

Trump has done nothing for the economy except threaten it with his harsh tariffs and trade wars. Fortunately, our robust economy is so strong it simply ignores Trump and marches on to greater successes.

Trump has done about our crumbling infrastructure despite his many promises.

Trump has done nothing about health care despite his many promises. “We’re going to have insurance for everybody. There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

Instead of getting better with all his promises and threats, the illegal immigration problem has gotten worse on his watch.

"Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States," Trump said four weeks ago. The mass deportation arrests that were expected didn’t happen.

Belief in the imperial Presidency has caused Trump to challenge the powers of the other two co-equal branches. His foolish attempts have ended in failure and defeat in the courts.

The Iran problem is getting worse, a problem he created. Trump is hoping the Europeans can solve the problem. He is ignoring it.

Despite two summits and Chamberlain-like visit to North Korea, we are no closer to denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula than we were two years ago. North Korea has threatened to resume nuclear testing.

Trump was forced to back down on the citizenship question on the census, a fight he was fated to lose from the beginning.

Mueller is scheduled to testify before two House committees next week. The former special counsel will explain that Justice Department policy kept him from laying out federal criminal charges against a sitting President, and that it is now up to Congress to hold the President responsible? All of this will take place before a live television audience to be seen by millions. A.G. William Barr said it would be a political spectacle. He was right about that.

If you were Trump, wouldn't you want to change the subject? What better way than to make a complete fool of yourself by attacking four black female junior members of Congress and pretending they speak for the Democratic Party leadership and Presidential candidates? To divert attention from important matters to which he is failing miserably, making himself look like an idiot is a time-honored method for Trump.

Want proof of that statement? Check out his statements in the last four days. That is all he is talking about, while his adoring admirers are cheering madly.

 

fake news, can you give a quote

 

If in whatever "Western nation" you are talking about (which you "conveniently" omitted) there are historic institutionalized advantages toward a non-white ethnic group, then that self-identified ethnic group is dominant and therefore, only that group can be racist, and no other. Otherwise, not.

 

Professional organizations frequently have definitions which differ from common usage. That does not make their definition the correct definition. They do it so that professional people are on the same page when discussing it, not necessarily because theirs is correct and common usage is wrong.

 

Be careful, my friend. Trump's fans want to bait you. They want you going off on tangents so you are not putting your best efforts on the important issues.

 

Libs always side with the Muslims over the Jews. And most Muslims in the Middle East want Israel driven into the sea.

 

no she did not, she even made sure that was not what people thought after by adding to it

 

Accusing me of being a racist may be against the forum rules. But more important than that, accusing me of racism with such an idiotic argument is against human intelligence.

I don't do "reporting", but I do do debunking stupidity. So here goes:

There is no such thing as "races"!!!

Read this. I don't know what you've heard, but if anybody told you that it's a bad thing to become educated, they lied..... You should try it. One time won't hurt.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ts-but-there-is-no-such-thing-as-race.558857/

 

You call my President Racist just like Pelosi does. She breaks the House rules and gets away with it. There most definitely is such a thing as race. Genetically it is irrefutable. However, you and your side want to identify human souls by race. That was the basic tenant of American slavery and Democrats just want to keep it going!

 

This is not a matter of "blame". Those who are really to blame are long dead. This is a never ending circle. There are those who wish to perpetuate the circle. Because they think perpetuating the circle allows them to pepetuate their privileges. they are the racists. And there are those who wish to find ways to end it.

You and your wife can pull away from Lindburgh Blvd and never return if you want. You have that privilege. The black guy who cut you off is probably "trapped" there. Until maybe a cop shoots him. Or he ends up in jail. Or he threatens a different couple. Except this other couple has a short fuse and a gun....And then it's the kids of this guy who will continue the circle.

 

No idea who that is. But minorities can be prejudiced against whites, but they cannot be "racist"

Racism and prejudice are very similar. And equally despicable. But not the same.

 

Nope, minorities of course can be racist.

Nothing can change.

The fallacy of "by definition" used by the other "minority can't be racist" is silly.

 

See what I mean. They are baiting you. Don't bite. Instead, come up with something really important while ignoring them. That really pisses them off.

It isn't discussion when Trump's fans are insulting you instead of dealing with the issues you have presented.

 

No. The links were in response to your claim that I made it up. Or that this definition was mine.

You would probably need to be quite a bit older than I'm sensing you are to know what the word "always meant".

That is not very relevant anyway. You seem to have focused on it to try to avoid referring to the fact that that is the actual meaning of "racism", as I have shown.

 

There is also, "on the other hand." In some respects, racism is hard baked in a couple strands of elder-Americans DNA. What most of us do is resist those strands and do everything to ensure they don't shake loose. Is Trump a racist, oh yeah. Those DNA strands broke loose a long time ago. Just note the complexion of his rallies. Does Trump think he's a racist? Nope. Do Trumpets at his rallies think they're racist? Of course not.

 

You sort of have to refer to race for something to be racist....to me. Telling someone who hates our country to go fix another country then come back with the knowledge you gained has little to do with race and everything with simply being ungrateful and miserable. But I know...any white man who criticizes women of color are racist now. Even white women cant saying anything to women of color now. Being a minority allows you to call anyone or anything racist that makes you upset. It’s an all powerful **** response. Then you don’t have to intelligently or rationally respond to anything. Just say, “As a woman of color, I reject that assertion”. That’s translated to **** racist because I don’t know what to say.

 

Wow. So that means a conference for black business women is just a couple 1000 racists gathered in a convention center. Your average symphony audience or Opera is just a collection of racists. Mostly white people and all.

/boggle

 

Yes, but that shouldn't be a factor. They are as good at spinning "non-impeachment" as they are at spinning "impeachment"

For the many reasons that I said before: it bypasses all the court bureaucracy to obtain depositions, it puts important witnesses on TV.... even Trump himself. The Trump family. It puts Senate Republican on record as to how they would vote on impeachment. To the point that I am not sure that Democrats won't be able to obtain enough votes to impeach him....

It was for high misdemeanors Strictly speaking it should have been enough. For any other President. I'm sure they would have added more articles with high crimes if it had passed. But I don't think this was the right moment. However, I do think that the right moment is soon.