People have lost hope': young Austrians on the rise of the far right

I'll tell you what Gaius_Marius, invite a Somali family, or a Roma family to live with you in your house then tell me how long it took you to become a 'racist'???

 

Most of those come from Western Europe in the enlightenment which Western Europe was more homogeneous.

Eastern Europe on the inverse was more multicultural, and held back from that multiculturalism, as many Eastern European tribes fought it out.

Now, that Eastern Europe is more homogeneous, now Eastern Europe has grown leaps, and bounds.

 

1000 years tend to create uniformity in the people living there. Still. Sicily has a unique culture and language and has been recognized as such by the world. If you ever go to Palermo you will se a very multicultural city filled with Norman, Jewish, Muslim and Greek buildings.

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No... Peace and the inclusion into the EU has done that. Not your ethnic composition. Yeah... As I said previously. You are biased by your ideology in everything you approach and as such you are boring. Not to say sorely lacking in knowledge.

 

Why would I become racist if I invited those people into my house? Even if one of them turned out to be a thief? Why would I judge a whole people on the actions of an individual?
Do you do that?

 

Are you suggesting that multiculturalism will ultimately subject multiple cultures into one culture?

Who knew?

The Greeks were in Sicily first, of all those groups, and those Greeks are no longer in Sicily.

So, yes it's a valid concern that newcomers in massive numbers can eradicate the previous inhabitants over time.

 

If I knew (for example) that a serial burglar was homeless, I'd put two and two together and not invite him to live with me lest I wake up next morning and find he's packed up all my valuables into a swag bag and did a runner during the night. I mean DUH??

 

Pretty sure the people living in Sicily are descendents of Greeks. Myself included though I never checked.

Of course cultures will merge. It has happened through all of history. With the advent of media and internet that merging happens across borders. We are already much more alike globally than any other generation and that will only increase in speed.

Newcomers in massive numbers is fictive problem that isn't happening anywhere. Again your bias shows itself. This is really boring mate.

 

Poland was a leader of science during the Renaissance,.

By the 18th century some Germans, and Jews who were invited into Poland were conspiring against Poland in the Partitions of Poland to collapse Poland.

Multiculturalism is sure great.

 

You went from inviting a Somali or gypsy family to a known thief. Pretty disgusting.
I have had family members who attacked us, sued as and much more. Would that mean I should hate all my family or just the idiots who behaved badly?

How does one grow up with your values Cerberus? Did you go to church?

 

The first Americans were also immigrants look at Jamestown, they were Anglo immigrants on Native American lands, now Native Americans hardly exist on their previous lands.

 

You keep bringing up these "Dolchstoss" moments of your country's history like they somehow justify racist ideology, but it doesn't. Poland has had a tragic history, but none of it makes your ideology and ideas more right.

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You are just trowing around historical events trying to justify your racist ideology. Have fun with that.

 

My country is the U.S.A, my heritage is Polish though.

Yeah, here there's also failures of multiculturalism.

Like when my Italian American co worker was walking home from Mohegan Lake, New York, when a group of Blacks yelled "Hey White boy, what are you doing here"
when they chased him down.

On the inverse, I've seen 2 Italian Americans from my neighborhood randomly attack Blacks.

Multiculturalism the gift that keeps giving.

 

Apologies. Did not notice you were American.

People do stupid things. It does not justify being a racist.
Growing up as a Sicilian in Denmark I know all about being assaulted by Danes because you look Muslim. Or being assaulted by Muslims because you are not one of them.
Stupid people are stupid. Regardless of creed, skin colour or nationality.

 

But, aren't these sort of conflicts caused by multiculturalism?

I mean who's a victim of racism in a homogeneous society?

 

A lot of people. I can point to specifically Italy where racism/bigotry was rampant in the 60's against the south Italians who went to the northern cities to work in the factories. Still is today.
I experienced the same in Copenhagen with people who came from other parts of the country and the "original" inhabitants of the city. The same in Rome.

The thing is... Remove the idiots and multiculturalism is a quite positive exchange of culture.
As a Danish-Italian-Portuguese-Sicilian I know what that multiculturalism is awesome. I have met a lot of awesome multicultural people all over the world.

 

Do you want to see the rise of fascism again? Didn't we fight a world war to rid ourselves of fascism, or am I imagining it?

 

And how long do you think it might be before they turn their attention to Jews, gays, lesbians, trades unions, the intelligentsia, Gypsies? We have ample precedent to warn us that fascism and the far-right can be very dangerous indeed if left unchallenged.

 

Ah yes, I see it's that word 'socialist' which has you confused. If the Nazis had called themselves 'The Fluffy Kitten Club' would that have made their fascism any less grotesque? See, in my world one is judged by one's actions, not by what one calls oneself.

 

There is no "national identity" in Europe. Europe isn't a nation.

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So what is this "national identity" and how would I recognise it?

 

Come off it. Do you really need to come to this forum and make up silly stories? You sound ridiculous. Stop embarrassing yourself, please.

 

I would agree, so since everything leading up to the "dictatorship" that it became was Socialist, it fits.

 

Oh, look!
We've got another one in denial.
All one need do is look at the Middle East to see what a failure mulit-culturalism is. They've been fighting each other for thousands of years with no resolve in sight.

 

I come from a traditionally Polish cultural background and I have lived here all my life. My parents, with barely a word of English when they arrived here as refugees in 1945, both rose to prominent positions in their respective professions. Cultural differences didn't seem to have hindered them in any way, so what am I missing in your post? Let me think-ah yes, different-coloured people!

 

How did the pursuit of monoculturalism work out for Nazi Germany? It destroyed Germany.

 

Well, even Nazi Germany's rise to power, can be seen as loosely driven by multiculturalism.

Germans were angry at Jews in Germany taking their jobs, and at the Polish - German border issue.

Besides, it's the Nazi German pursuit of power in imperialism that failed them.

P.S

Soviet Poland successfully achieved monoculturalism after WW2, by first kicking out Germans, and Ukrainians, and then giving Jews the chance to leave.

Of course, this was a good decision.

Poland might still be sucked into chaotic conflicts, if not for this with it's German, or Ukrainian neighbors

I could totally see a "War in Donbass" type of situation TODAY, or RECENTLY over Galicia with Ukrainians, or with Pomerania, and Silesia with Germans had Soviet Poland not kicked out the Germans, and Ukrainians.