People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    A good question.

    In the myth, Jesus takes the judgement seat, the seat of heaven's power, and lets Yahweh sit in his seat.

    Jesus, in a sense, keeps Yahweh near so that he can show us what an immoral god that needs his wings clipped looks like.

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    If god did not want us to desire that, he would not have put Satan/talking serpent right beside Eve to insure she was tempted.

    Satan to the intelligentsia, is Yahweh's Loyal Opposition and man's teacher that has us questioning everything and choosing the good.

    An education for A & E is good, as compared with them having their eyes closed to all knowledge.

    That is why you sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

    Would you not do as Adam did and derail god's plan? Heaven forbid.

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    Then show why you think that way.

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The one that emphasizes love and humility.

    In the same way that a student must first accept what they are being taught in order to learn, a person must first accept the existence of God in order to know Him.

    God reveals Himself to those who accept Him. This is why I have different experiences than you.
     
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    Good. That excludes Yahweh and Allah as they are gods of war and hate.

    One would expect nothing less from a genocidal god who hates women and gays and his own son, who he had needlessly murdered.

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    So a person has to go into intellectual and moral dissonance to believe that your genocidal god is real and should be adore for his satanic ways.

    Ok.

    No thanks. Morals and ethics may not mean anything to you but they are important to me.

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    Actually God sacrificed His own Son, (His Word Incarnate) to save mankind and give them eternal life. Can there be any greater love than that? As for the rest of what you wrote, you're only projecting your own feelings - and that doesn't say much for you now does it?

    Oh yes, morals and ethics as established by you, our latest 'god'-man.


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    and follow us in ancient rule,
    of pagan rites and flagrant life,
    and effete men begetting strife. - Jeannette




     
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    Hell yes. What the hell is wrong with your thinking.

    If you decided a sacrifice was required to forgive those you condemned, would you send your child or would you step up yourself?

    Who should bury who?

    Should children bury their parents or should parents bury their children?

    Show us what your religion has taught you, morality and love wise.

    Please don't make me have to quote your "and that doesn't say much for you now does it?" , --- back to you.

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    I have based my view with your bible. Strange that your moral understanding is so inferior to mine, but let's see what you answer on sending your child or yourself to die.

    That will tell me if Satan has you well in hand or not.

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    And yet the Semites always sacrificed their first born to the fire to appease the demon gods when under attack. Carthage comes to mind. The ancient Greeks sent their sons to war, and their daughters to sacrifice. The Spartan mothers told their sons, come back with your shield, or on it.

    And these are the civilized nations. So just imagine what went on in the less civilized ones.

    The world you live in today is not the world before Christ, it's the world after Christ.


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    Darkness reigns without the light,

    with souls a-wandering in the night,
    of pagan lusts, barbarity,
    of malice, harm and cruelty.

    We pray that there will be a day

    when evil such, will slide away
    and man finds that he's free once more
    with hatred's gone as well as war.- Jeannette



     
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    Obviously not, seeing that's not all they tried to hide from God.
     
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    Well then, feel free to correct me and specify what you're actually referring to.

    ...if you're waiting for an invitation, this is it.
     
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    You quoted the verse that answers your question, and ignored it.
     
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    Why are you so reluctant to explain your interpretation? Thats the entire purpose of this website, after all.
     
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    Because it's so bloody obvious that I shouldn't have to.
     
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    Obviously it isn't.

    What is your purpose here, if not to explain your view?
     
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    Well since the current Christian god only saves those that worship it guess that rules out the Christian god.
     
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    if I have to tell you you will never get it.
     
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    The Christian God doesn't save anyone. People save themselves when they become more like God, so that they are able to enter His existence/dimension. Christ (God's Word) told them how to do it; repentance.
     
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    I think people should be able to think for themselves rather than blindly follow what some book says.
     
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    If Christians followed a book to unite with God in His realm/dimension, it would mean a child, or an intellectually handicapped person, could never attain unity with God. Christianity is a matter of a person's heart, not their minds. The enlightenment comes from the Holy Spirit.
     
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    Certainly not to those with eyes wide shut.
    Don't worry yer purty lil head over it.
     
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    People create Gods and thus are their own Gods. Or they don't believe in a God and thus are their own Gods.

    Of course anyone who disagrees can prove me wrong by proving God exists.
     
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    Is that curmudgeon for 'I don't want to talk about it anymore?' ;)
     
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    Interesting as the age of consent is arbitrary both between groups and time periods.

    Also there been some interesting rulings by our courts an other courts concerting mentally handicapped citizens.

    My father was 20 years old an wish to married my mother before going into the military during WW2 and could not do so in the state of PA due to his parents not being willing to sign consent.

    My Grandparents on my mother side drove them to Maryland in order for them to married.
     
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