PF's ONLY 2018 Swedish general elections thread

I think it's just a logical outcome of the market -- in a competitive market, you try to find your market niche. The Guardian's is the, for want of a better phrase, liberal intelligentsia.

No one likes cognitive dissonance -- we want to read 'news' that confirms what we already believe -- immigrants are assimilating and bringing cultural richness, or immigrants are not assimilating and are starting drug gangs -- so we get newspapers oriented to these niches. I think this is different from supposedly-neutral media, which try to socially engineer us.

 

And today's Sun headlines just proves beyond doubt that we've reached Idiocracy. Not that the others are any better, filled with **** like Strictly Come Dancing trivia and juvenile word play headlines. What a ****ing embarrassment it all is. And May thinks we're still a world power? Thanks to you and your ilk, Missus, we've become nothing more than a ****ing dysfunctional broken-down banana state.

 

A couple of good journals to read if you're British, or want to keep up with what's happening in Britain.

The Spectator.

Standpoint.

The first is a 'cultural' magazine, as well as having political articles, but always interesting. The second is explicitly conservative and political.

The Spectator has some really witty commentators -- in particular I like Rod Liddle, a Labour Party supporter (or he used to be), who loves to make fun of Political Correctness. And James Delingpole is always worth reading, as is Toby Young. There's no lack of material, provided free by the Left, to make fun of.

 

So, the official Facebook page of Socialdemokraterna in a smaller city have published a status update in Arabic to appeal to immigrant voters in which they make up lies about SD and demand everyone to vote either Social Democrats or Left Party or at least Green Party.

"We ask all Swedes - and especially those who are immigrants - to vote for either Socialdemokraterna or Vänsterpartiet or at least Miljöpartiet because they are all the least damaging alternative for immigrants in general and for Muslims in particular."

In the same post, it is claimed (among other things) that SD want to "shut down the mosques", "make it illegal for women under 18 to wear veil", "illegalise halal meat", "take Muslim kids away from their parents" and "limit the access to welfare for Muslims".

For all of you who thought Sweden was a modern democracy where elections couldn't be rigged; think again.

 

Here follows my own presentation of the PM candidates. I am not a fan of any of them and not a follower of any party, so this is as objective it gets (lulz):


Green Party's Gustav Fridolin looks, acts and talks like a child. Someone, please, pass him an ice cream.



Our PM is the worst rhetorician in the world. He constantly stumbles on his words, incomprehensively muddles overused cliches and always fails to answer what it was that was asked. Most politicians are good at avoiding the question, but our PM is painfully awful at that and he never even ever looks present, there is always a look of being lost in his eyes and his body language screams "I am don't want to do this!"

He is stupid to the level it almost makes him cute.


Centre Party's Annie Lööf is a politician of emptiness. She seems quite intelligent, but she is just not a very reliable politician. Also, it is cray-cray how, in times where even Socialdemokraterna want to restrict immigration, she has decided to go all loose and full cray-cray with the open borders advocacy.


Liberal Party's Jan Björklund is funny and whitty. Apart from that, his party stands for nothing and are not Liberal in any sense of the classical meaning of the word, which they claim to stand for. Big joke.


Left Party's Jonas Sjöstedt is an idiot who lacks both self-awareness and sense of reality. Unlike our PM, he - at least - knows how to speak, but unfortunately is incapable of keeping an adult and civil debate with his opponents.


Moderate Party's Ulf Kristersson gives the impression of bad self-control and is not the kind of leader his party needs. Boring and lacks charisma.


The only two well-spoken and representable politicians we have are Jimmie Åkesson (SD) and Ebba Busch Thor (KD). A big plus to them both for always making sure they look good and groomed.

 

This just came with the post 5 minutes ago. I guess they think us pensioners are blind, stupid and demented because on the front of the envelope it only says the contents are important for my pension and must be opened before 9 September (date of the elections). I think the idea is not to actually read the letter at all but just vote for socialdemokraterna and the pig called Stefan Löfven. Let me see now …. what has he done for my pension so far? What a b’stard he is. Sorry, shyt-fer-brains, but I can still think and read – and not putting your logo on the front of the envelope didn’t fool me one bit.




NOTE: It says his goal is LÅNGsiktig which means 'you can forget that I am going to raise your pension until ..... Jimmie Åkesson does it'.

 

I think you are too kind to Lööf.

 

Lmfao, what a shameless bunch of pigs. They have completely ruined the whole system with their handouts and high tax rates by expropriating your salary for all your working life and now they expect you to believe they can fix their own mess by pushing the same policies? Hell to the no.

Btw. Have you gotten your SD-ballots yet? I have received mine from S and M, but not from other parties. I did receive the SD-newspaper the other day, however.

 

Annie Röv.

 

I'm telling you, they think we are stupid. I'm 71 and Löfven reckons that I (we) care about nothing but our pension. What about our country? Does Löfven think I am willing to go into the deep sleep leaving my wife, my children and my countrymen in a shyt-hole? I guess that is what he is hoping for. He's already saving dirty money for his retirement in New Zealand, far from Swedistan.

I got SD ballots and the SD newspaper about a week ago. I haven't seen the others but I think my wife probably threw them away because she knows how that crap will upset me. It doesn't really matter because my mind was made up a l-o-n-g time ago when the other parties proudly announced that they wouldn't cooperate with Åkesson no matter if SD got elected or not. DEMO0CRACY is (in my opinion) the most important factor in running a country and if SD is the only party to uphold that value ........... !

 

It won't be long now!

 

But for those who are undecided, there is hope!

 

After a long period of back and forth and deep strategic analysis, I have come to the conclusion that the best alternative is to vote Moderaterna - This way I will get Alliansen's economic policies and SD's migration policy (which is the only reason I see voting for SD as reasonable) since the outcome will certainly force a coallision with them and such agreement is probably something SD would accept. At the same time, this would exclude Rödgröna from any influence.

 

Jimmie Åkesson is actually a moderate figurehead who leads the anti-immigration party. Åkesson supports LGBT rights and he went against the Swedish Democrats' core values, thus transforming the party and purging the party of racism and extremism. This is why the Swedish Democrats are likely to see an increase of 20 percent of the vote, which will be up from around 13 percent at the last election. I think Åkesson is a decent guy who can be the next prime minister.

 

I purchase my chicken on the plate, not when it's wounded. It might survive and I'll go hungry. Voting for who you think is best is the only way to ensure you've done your best.

 

I agree with every point. I am happy to see that I am not the only one who sees Åkesson as a moderate. He said it himself but no one was listening. "A centre party".

 

You could just come in illegally and they'll throw roses at your feet.

 

Why would you call Sweden, Swedistan?

I thought you loved the multiculturalism and I was just imagining things.

 

The immigrant situation in Sweden is clearly linked to the upcoming elections.

It is a clear, driving factor in fact. Maybe the largest driving factor.

You can shut up any time you'd like.

 

There's a big concern in the long-term that the financial solvency of pensions may be in jeopardy due to stretches on the state budget.

Already the state has had to make cutbacks to hospitals and services for older people in the more rural areas.

There might ultimately have been some truth to that political advertisement put out eight years ago by SD

 

I think it is half-true. Or at least 70 percent true.

Just to prove I'm not biased, I actually wrote an article validating your perspective: Sweden since 1970, living standard going way down

I'll agree about one thing: Part of what drove the country's success is also what ultimately sowed the seeds of the country's destruction.

There was really a synergistic effect between free market industry and socialism. And of course one can't discount the factor of the population itself.

But the whole socialism attitude at some point began pushing a little too far, and immigration cannot be discounted as a major factor.

Ironically I think some of the neoliberal reforms in the 90s may have hurt the country as well, even though they were in opposition to the force of socialism. Basically one had the worst of both political inclinations, in some ways.
Internationalism combined with socialism is like drinking alcohol with Disulfiram.

 

This thread is about the upcoming election and any other topic is for another thread.

In the meantime, I think it might be a good idea for you to look up the word "absurd". I am convinced you don't know what it means.

 

Whenever the opposition gets past the debate on immigration (and SD has an opportunity to speak about something other than that) Åkesson brings up that very subject. Is that perhaps why 'S' is spending their spare change on us pensioners? "Just in case we didn't get round to saying it in debate ........ we like old people! Vote for us!"

 

I agree .....

 

I haven't seen it. Just point me in the right direction.