Pit Bulls should be banned in this country ! <<MOD WARNING - FOR RULE 9>>

Yes, they are. Quantifiably so.

 

Until you own and raise a German Shorthaired Pointer from a puppy you can not know what dog intelligence is. There is absolutely no need to train a GSP, they just learn, you ask them to do, and they do so, until you see this you can not believe it. Pitbulls also do not need to be trained to do what they do, but that thing is kill whatever is in front of them, including their owner sometimes

 

You evidently know very little about dogs, if you believe that.

Try teaching a pug to round up sheep.

 

Japanese?

The Shiba Inu is another dangerous breed.

 

Pugs are ALL actually mutants that can not breath properly due to their short snout. Vets are recommending that the breed be eliminated for this reason. Sad but there are no healthy pugs

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...sasters-vets-must-speak-out-even-bad-business

 

Even if it were true that they're no more likely to have an aggression snap than any other breed, this alone is enough reason to never own one. Why would you subject every visitor to your home, all your neighbours, and their pets .. to even the slight risk of being attacked by such an animal? Seems downright sociopathic to me.

 

Every pitbull owner should be forced to have 10 million dollars of insurance...........That would eliminate the breed to decent people making the only pits owned by moronic dogfighters

 

Under the right conditions any dog, any human will attack. So if you are saying you cannot remove the fight or flight instinct that is inherent in creatures then i can agree. HOWEVER it is pure bull ***** to say a pit bull cannot be trained to behave as well or better than any other breed. There are many breeds that require more effort than a pit bull to train.

Actually pit bull is not a breed. It is a common name given that encompasses several breeds.

 

That's a racist way of thinking, by the way. To say that you are a racist for it would be going a bit far, but you nonetheless use race and genes here, much like a white racist would about blacks and their apparent higher-than-average criminality.

I am of a certain age; I remember when the dog-craze was about German Sheppards. Then Dobermanns. Then Malamuths. Then Pit-bulls. All of the aformetionned races are now okay in consensual perception, after being branded as deaths on four legs in their times.

So what is the common link between these races? Idiots.

Testosteroned idiots will buy the next most dangerous races the minute you will interdict pitt bulls. Or worse - they will create another one that will make pitt-bulls look like Boston Terriers. What we should do is prevent idiots from owning dogs (or any other animal, for that matter).

 

I have raised and trained working dogs for decades. The most intelligent of the working dogs ... sheep and cattle herders. Their intelligence continues to astonish me.

 

No pit bull can be trained to do what Shorthaires do without training. Sorry that is just a fact, part of the reason is that Shorthaires run free in the wood to do what they do, since no pitbull owner lets their dog run free the pit has no chance to learn. And don't give me any krap that I am wrong because the first cop to see the loose monster will shoot it, the police and game wardens both are well aware that Shorthaires run free everywhere, you do not even know what a dog is because you actually own a monster

 

Then why do the vast majority of them not do that?

 

Oh I agree absolutely. They are a spectacularly cruel example of human vanity. Cannot imagine why anyone encourages breeders by buying them.

On this, I will only own dogs which are a) rescues, and b) retain the physical form of the wolf (though smaller). the first is the only acceptable option if you're a genuine dog lover, and the second is because the wolf form is the 'perfect' canine form. as in, has the least problems and is tried and tested over thousands of years.

 

Yep, and when there are bans, they don't even base it on real breeds at all. Anything with the wrong basic skull shape is a pitty.

 

Granted. I'd ban Staffies, also.

 

I have heard that the border collie is the most intelligent dog, but a GSP lost in the woods, will eat and drink just fine until found, that said mine can't even seem to get lost. German Shorthaires, my breed do not need to be trained, they need to be told and instructed once, perhaps twice to do anything, that does not rise to training. All of my dogs are trained fully by 4 months, from there they continue to learn, just by being free and finding new sources to learn from

 

That is like saying why would i walk down the sidewalk of my street because I never know when I might get run over.

I understand some people are afraid of dogs. Those people should not own dogs and i recommend they limit their exposure to them. Unless or until they can get over the fear.

 

I am happy I don't live in the world according to crank.

 

These are not dog lovers, they are 'breed' lovers. There's a world of difference.

 

And how many people have been killed by Chihuahuas?

 

What are you talking about? I asked why you would subject others (and their pets) to the potential of your dog attacking them? When you can have any one of a vast number of far less potentially dangerous dogs, why on earth would you choose one which is a risk?

 

Staffies are problematic, and are infused to Pit lines for the very reasons that they are problematic.

 

No they aren't. And dog bites? Bites by large dogs just about always result in a trip to a medical facility and there the law requires the bite be reported. But bites by small breeds are often not reported, so a study must take the form of a poll or other non-medical record study. And when that is done, guess what!! Dachshunds take first place. Chihuahuas take second place, and Jack Russells are the third most aggressive breed.

The least aggressive breeds included Basset Hounds, Golden Retrievers, Labradors, Siberian Huskies, and Greyhounds. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers scored about average to below average in the study.
http://www.appliedanimalbehaviour.com/article/S0168-1591(08)00114-7/abstract

I volunteer at the local Humane Society. My job there is to work with dogs that come in with behavioral problems and to socialize them to make them suitable for adoption. A large portion of the dogs we get are the large breeds including pit bulls. I have dealt with many pit bulls there over 4 years and most of them were safe to deal with and a few were the most gentle, people-friendly dogs we've had. I had one come in that would retreat to the back of the kennel and growl with her head held low when anyone approached. So I went into her kennel to work with her. In about 8 minutes I had her taking treats out of my hand, and by 20 minutes into the session she was in my lap and licking me and wagging her stubby tail. She was subsequently adopted by a family who just loves her.

We've had pit bulls that were great "helper dogs". They signal us when a new dog comes in with a problem that needs being addressed. They know before we do. Then a "helper dog" helps by "refereeing" conflicts between dogs, and the initiator learns to not initiate. And when the pitties aren't working with other dogs, they typically want human contact and love. They are some of the happiest breeds. But they were bred to be good with people because they were bred to be good fighters, and people need to safely handle them otherwise.

Let me suggest the best way you can get an objective perspective on pitties: locate a shelter that runs play groups and ask to participate as a volunteer observer. Then ask questions about what you see happening with the dogs. Get to recognize behaviors and what they mean. You'll have a new view of the subject.

 

They are the most 'dumped' dog breed. Pits and Staffies/Staffie-crosses.

 

71 percent of all human fatalities were caused by pitbulls, they have killed over 300 Americans................ You need to face reality