Planned Parenthood's former president says she was instructed to say 'abortion' in every interview.

I don't think women are stupid. I think those who are pro choice are selfish and being purposefully ignorant so that they can continue on their tinder dates while not having to face the consequences of the actions they partake in. A clear conscious. Asking a doctor to commit murder while not letting you know the violence that was required to perform the abortion is absolutely selfish and disgusting.

You deserve to know what was needed to perform the abortion, and you should be made aware of the results of your choice to have an abortion. You should absolutely be held accountable for your choices and actions.

The fact that pro choice advocates fight to protect people who are getting abortions from seeing ultrasounds of their baby or even generic photos as to what the baby currently would look like is an admission in itself of guilt as to the reality of what is actually happening during an abortion.

 

Well said.
Stop to think. Now after reading the pro choice arguments, doesn't that remind you of the former Nazis view on the human race?
They decided Jews were not humans so killed millions of them.

 

Yes, you indicate it here :
ToughTalk said: ↑
No. It is murder. I mean you can pretend you are not ending a human life in the process but that's exactly what is happening. You've convinced yourself that the action isn't what it is so that you can have a clear conscious as you selfishly go about creating human life all willy nilly never being asked to be responsible for abusing the power to create life.

I especially adore how protective you are about not letting women who are looking for an abortion to get an image scan of what's inside them to see exactly what it is they are killing.

I mean that indicates awareness as to what the action is. I'd go one step further and force the woman to hold the child in their hands so they can see EXACTLY what it is that they have done."""""""""

(bolding, mine)

Ignorant of what?

I don't know what a 'tinder date " is....is that the only date you get?

Why do you insist they aren't facing the consequences?


They are....just not the ones YOU approve of.....but your approval means nothing.

Duh, a doctor can simply refuse.

BUT only punished for them IF they are criminal actions....pregnancy and abortion are NOT criminal acts....but your adoration of punishing women rules your head...

Protect them from being FORCED to view ultrasounds. Anti-Choicers delight in forcing women to do their bidding..

No, it isn't...women aren't as stupid as you claim, they know what pregnancy is and what an abortion is.....


....and continue to have lotsa fun sex whenever and however they want without your approval

 

Tax deductions for ZEFs????

 

No argument, no points, no facts, nothing... so start screaming Nazi Nazi !!!

 

Nothing of what you quoted here says I think all women are stupid. Want to try again?

Ignorant to the act of abortion and what it actually is.

I'm married with kids. A far far cry from your likely bachelor apartment and cat collecting.

Because they are not the ones performing the abortion, lol. I mean you seriously had to ask me this?

Uhm No. They are not. Pro choice will prevent them seeing an ultrasound of the child they have ordered to be executed. Pro choice will prevent them from seeing the child AFTER they have been executed. They are absolutely not facing up to the reality of their choice to have an abortion. Pro choice wants the woman to be free of guilt. But then if it were just a Zygote...why would they be scared of the woman feeling guilting if they saw an ultrasound or the aftermath of the zygote being aborted? lol.

Some do. And some don't. Some vets can put an animal down and it makes them sad, but that's part of the job.

It should be. It is the ending of someone's life. All for the sake of convenience. Sad. Imagine someone wanted to kill you because you were inconvenient? Should we be ok with that?

Forcing the woman to face the reality of their choice. Ya. How scary.

Your sex life isn't a concern to me. (I think it's cute that you think it is...lol) But if you end up having an abortion because of the results of your carelessness...then I'd say you've earned a nice negative label for being so irresponsible.

 

Rarely is the act of sex forced that causes pregnancy.
Women raped should not carry the child to term.
Women participating in willing sex should not have any laws passed allowing them to hire the killing of their human in their person. They volunteered. It would be like letting a Drunk driver escape prison for killing a human. The drunk is less capacitated then the willing female.

Harm to the female.
Abortion does harm the female. She spends time later in recovery.

 

Thank you.

 

If you believe two cells define a human being than there really is nothing more to say to you. You do realize that this nonsense is a very recent religious and philosophical position to take, right? Up until the religious nuts that call themselves evangelicals got their bonnets in a bunch over Roe, it was really about the quickening not conception. This entire gibberish has nothing to do with human life, its all about controlling women and shaming sex. Go ahead and make your wife and daughter live by your misogyny, just lay off my wife and daughters.

 

No, there is no evidence of that. Pro-Choicers want women to RETAIN their right to their own bodies....Anti-Choicers wish to punish women who get pregnant by destroying their rights as if they were mere animals who need to be controlled.....






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It is sad when one can't tell the difference between BORN and UNBORN.... any tax deductions for ZEFs??? WHY can't you answer that?

Go ahead and label all you want( women do NOT care about your opinion ) ...just don't try to destroy basic human rights of women....

 

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So?

Why not? Isn't ALL life precious???



Or are you saying they should be FORCED to abort???

Contrary to what Anti-Choicers think, getting pregnant and/or having an abortion is not a crime...

So? Pregnancy requires recovery and some things caused by pregnancy a woman never recovers from...


Why don't you care about the harm caused by pregnancy??



Even IF abortion caused harm it's still the woman's option......

 

At conception the entire DNA strain is already pre determined and the blood type is unique. All that's left is for the person to be allowed to grow into a full grown adult. The two main ingredients to create life have already been combined. Nothing but nutrients left at that point.

Yes. It is a human at the most earliest stage. There is nothing arbitrary or subjective about this reasoning.

We take 25 years to complete growth. We are not suddenly human at the age of 25. We were always human. Right from the first cell onward. That's part of our life cycle regardless if you do not want to acknowledge those first few months because humans lack some arbitrary trait you personally require to identify us as being human and alive. That's not reality. It was ALWAYS there. ALWAYS human.

I'm not into shaming women about having sex. I don't care about any of that nonsense. HOWEVER, creating life is a very powerful ability, and one shouldn't just be creating life willy nilly expecting some third party (abortion doctor) to clean up that mess. Men should be on the hook of being responsible every bit as much as women. Unfortunately biology or mother nature leaves women to hold the bag so to speak. So at the end of the day, the responsibility falls on them.

 

O brother, get a robe and start preaching buddy. Stop with this gibberish.

 

YES, the responsibility falls on THEM NOT YOU.

 

Just because you personally find it inconvenient, doesn't mean something doesn't exist. It's there. It's alive and it's human. It doesn't need to measure up to your bias and subjective/arbitrary set of attributes to be qualified as what it actually is.

 

Are you actually suggesting that young women don't know how babies are made?

And are you also suggesting that contraception isn't readily available to anyone who wants it? And are you also suggesting that even when contraception is readily available, that women won't still engage in risky behaviours - ie incorrect or inadequate use of said contraceptives, or failure to use said contraceptives at all?

 

Who said that? Nobody.

No one said it wasn't.

It's actually a ZEF and NOT a legal person.

 

No, what he posted was :
Pro_Line_FL said: ↑
Right. IMO the only realistic way to reduce abortions is to prevent unplanned pregnancies via making contraceptives more available and education."""


NO where did he imply your imagined, trite hobby horse "somebody said women don't know how babies are made".

So what? None of those things are against the law.

 

And while legally you are correct, laws change all the time, but beyond that you are still morally bankrupt for willfully creating life just to kill it. Sorry.

 

Good to see that you admit your first two comments in post 118 were incorrect.


What TF don't you get about people do not care about YOUR morals....they have their own and don't need you playing god and telling them what's "moral" and what isn't....do you dance? Well, if you do STOP because some people think it's immoral !!!!!!


And nobody "creates a life just to kill it"...that's a silly statement..


And, laws do change but RvW has been around for over fifty years and the laws that protect women's rights are firmly in place no matter how that upsets you.

 

The same way as murder.

How would the internet help with abortion?

To replace surgical abortion?

It's not the easiest or cheapest thing to do. If elective abortion was illegal, I'm quite sure that MANY women would choose to just have the kid.

You will not be able to make a case that abortion laws would NOT prevent a single abortion or that society would be no better off, or WORSE off.

 

Let's make drugs legal! After all, if you don't like drugs, don't do drugs!

 

How is elective abortion different to murder?

 

According to some people, it's a right of passage! Abortions are to be CELEBRATED! This is a FAR CRY from the old liberal mantra: safe, legal and rare.

Yes, and carrying it to term can happen with no intervention. It can involve the woman and the woman alone. Can the same be said about abortion?

 

She cannot do it alone.