Please explain this to me.

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  1. Ritter

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    I hate it when crypto-socialist sports-haters belittle the achievements of athletes with "they are just chasing a ball and are making millions."

    Anyways, it would be much better if you could give us what he actually wrote rather than paraphrasing him.
     
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    Thats the typical response of those wishing to sweep racism under the rug
     
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    Sorry if you cannot handle the truth, but that doesn't change the fact blacks have been generationally programmed to be victims and until they get out of that trap they will remain enslaved to the race pimps.
     
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    Everyone has slaves for ancestors...
     
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    And yada yada yada.

    The reference, as you well know, is to slaves in this country and, no, not every person in that context has slaves as ancestors.

    If you want to have a conversation OK. If you want to play stupid to avoid the conversation then you are cordially invited to play alone.
     
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    Why does it matter if one person's ancestors were slaves in this country and another person's ancestors were slaves in another country? What's the difference?
     
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    If we're talking about slaves for ancestors, how about the Jews? I mean, how far back does it have to be to end?

    Two generations? Three generations? Four? Five?
     
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    Are there any White race pimps? Do they have an investment in keeping racism alive?
     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Jewish people were never slaves in the USA. We are talking about enslaved people in the USA.
     
  10. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Huge difference. Enslaved Africans in the USA helped build the wealth of this country. Enslaved people in other countries did not build the wealth of the USA.
     
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    Yes, they are known as Democrats and they are the party that loves and needs racism to maintain a stock of enslaved voters living on their plantation of government handouts.
     
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    When it comes to doing the job, I agree with you - skin color should mean absolutely nothing. But, sadly, it IS an accomplishment for this country to even consider a Black individual for a position of ultimate authority - much less elect them. So the designation (first black POTUS) sticks. I'm hoping that we will evolve (and catch up with other advanced countries of this planet) and the designation becomes unnecessary.
     
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    What does that mean to us as a country today? Is that a problem that has a solution? OIOW- is there something that needs to be done differently?
     
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    It does and always will. Just not the way you think.
     
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    This is a place.
    That is a place.
    They are not the same place.

    Why the Fluk am I explaining 3rd grade civics?
     
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    I'm going to help you out because I'm just that kind of guy.
    The OP referenced slavery IN THIS COUNTRY
    The response triggering this thread was about slavery IN THIS COUNTRY.
    You and the other ....person... are trying to evade your obvious support of the racist remark in the OP by trying to confuse the context.

    Context, for your convenience and obvious educational need, is the Who, what, where, and when of the discussion.
    Trying to change the context so as to change the meaning is dishonest. The equivalent of a Trump press release..
    Being dishonest is damaging to one's reputation.
    Why do you not value your reputation?
     
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    Because they think uppity n*****s should prostrate themselves at the feet of the white nation that "allows" them their successes. The white wing nutballs think only they have the right to say America is not great. They even put it on their hats, while degenerating into quivering, amorphous blobs of impotent anger the moment someone not in their club says it.
     
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    I'll rephrase... whats the difference between one person who's ancestors were enslaved here and another person who's ancestors were enslaved elsewhere? What makes those two people different?
     
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    How about, the centuries of intervening history? Are you serious right now? Does this really have to be explained to a functioning adult?
     
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    Should those two people be treated differently? Do they have different rights or abilities or social obligations as a result of their differing 'intervening history'? What is the difference as it pertains to you and I?
     
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    I am not your assistant. If you have a point, please just make it.
     
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    My point is that there is no realistic, meaningful, objective difference between someone who's ancestors were enslaved in America and someone who's ancestors were enslaved elsewhere unless that difference manifests as the two people being treated differently.

    So- should they be treated differently, with different rights, entitlements, privledges or obligations?
     
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    The difference lies in the situation into which they were born. The results of nearly years of segregation (not just from other people, but from the economy) are there for all to see. So yes, I believe we should give them a leg up, somehow. You don't. Okay.
     
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    Okay, so you think they should be treated differently. Thats the objectivity I was trying to coax out here.

    What sort of 'leg up' do you think will even things out and make them like everyone else again?
     
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    In some ways, yes. For example, I would be down with some extra college money. Also, some forms of affirmative action. Some forced diversity in student bodies and certain fields would be appropriate. (the bar would be low, this is Murrica).
     

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