Police chief to Trump: Please, keep your mouth shut if you can't be constructive

Love is not approval. I love my relatives, but I don't want them as president.

 

Look up convictions and indictments in US Presidential administrations. Even if the numbers aren't perfect, what is correct is the premise, that Republican administrations have far more indictments and convictions over Democratic administrations. The record is clear, look it up yourself

 

Your circumlocutions noted.......

Far more people approve of Obama than they approve of Trump. This will always be true.

 

It is within the margin of error.

 

Well, the fed has been spying on Americans since the Patriot Act went live. There is no evidence that Trump stopped this practice.

 

A point well taken, which does not conflict with my point. Other's have been accusing Obama as if.......

THe issue is the Patriot Act, not Obama.

 

"People who vote do not go around looting anything."

Where is your source they don't vote? Also the people wearing Antifa gear and the overwhelming amount of blacks suggests that they are leftists. You can take a look at a poll or voting source and you'll see the overwhelming majority of blacks vote for left wing policies/candidates. The criminal activity found in these riots is entirely left wing in origin. There are zero counter marches and the BLM is entirely left wing movement too.

 

Grasping at straws are we?

Not in the aggregate, and even not in the snapshot, which was when Obama left. a 5 point spread usually exceeds margins of error, noting that, historically, Obama beat Trump the vast majority of the time the surveys were conducted.

Besides, Obama's approval was affected by the ACA, which is now much more popular than it was when O left..

Do the survey NOW, and you'll get even a wider spread in O's favor than T's.

 

Not at all. Obama started high and dropped steadily. In the last twelve months, Obama and Trump have zigzagged back and forth across each other and ended up with a four point difference which is less than the margin of error. You said Obama took a hit on ACA. Trump took a hit because of the virus in his 40th month.

 

Obama's coming back from the ACA because's now a lot more popular than it was.

Trump's decline in popularity is due to his mishandling of the virus, and it's getting even worse due to his incompetence of Floyd (the egregious photo op, etc ).

Overall, Obama had gotten far more approval votes than Trump has, in the aggregate.

Obama is beloved, Trump is loved only by a minority, and the rest who vote for him just hold their nose and vote for him.

 

And Obama's poor popularity was due to poor handling of the ACA. "You can keep your doctor" Your medical costs will be less than $3000 per family. Before the virus, Trump was higher than Obama and there is no evidence any democrat would have done better. If anything they would have done worse.

Face it, Obama's popularity is not that much higher than Trump. It is within the margin of error.

 

I grew up in South L.A. Trust me, most of them don't vote. Most law abiding, civic minded, and especially older, blacks, do vote, but they are NOT the ones looting.

Don't conflate these two groups. Antifa is not a black dominated group, and it's not even an organization. Antifa are very political, I doubt they are the ones looting, but they are probably doing damage, which is wrong, of course. Antifa is more interested in direct action against political operatives they deem are
pro-fascist. I don't agree with their tactics, I condemn their methods, they are not doing my cause any favors, that is certain, nor are neo-nazis doing Trumpism any favors.

mostly blacks outraged by police brutality. A few low lifes loot, they are just taking advantage of the situation.

Yes, and the right has it's extremist groups, too.

In fact, the vast majority of domestic terrorism incidents in the US are right wing extremists.

The number of antifa members, (and there is no evidence they are disproportionately black) compared to the overall electorate, is extremely small. My guess is that most of them are not going to vote because Biden is not their guy, Biden is corporate neoliberal democrat and they are not fond of that type candidate. They prefer someone like Jill Stein or Sanders. I have a radical left friend and she didn't vote in the last election because she wasn't going to vote for hillary. For her, it was Bernie or bust.

Blacks overwhelmingly vote for democrats because republican policies are usually some variant of more goodies for the rich, and less for the poor, plus the fact that republicans are always putting road blocks in front of minorities making it harder for them to vote ( the big tactic now is cutting back on polling places in minority neighborhoods, increasing the waiting time plus their deceptive voter caging tactics which are purging disproportionately
blacks and minorities. During the 2016 election republicans did 'interstate crossheck', now disbanded because it was determined to disproportionately
purging blacks, and way too many false positives. Don't think blacks not aware of what Republicans are doing.)


The vast majority of the type of low lifes who would loot a store during a pandemic, they don't even think about politics. I've known a lot of low lifes growing up in tough neighbohoods in L.A, I assure you, most of them are not political, they are criminal or just low information types. And yes, there re plenty in the white ranks, too, no group has a monopoly on this sort of thing.

These riots are reactionary, it's not really 'terrorism', it's just outraged blacks and a few low life looters taking advantage of the situation. There might be a handful of Antifa joining in, but it's all reactionary, not planned. One thing is sure, the right wing media is going to zoom in on Antifa, and paint the entire thing as "leftist" as you are doing, which is disingenuous, and I'm being generous. The truth about domestic terrorism in the US is the opposite of the right wing narrative, it's mostly white groups or very small groups or individuals.

Terrorism is politically motivated, and usually planned, coordinated, like Waco, and other similar incidents, and notably , almost always some white group behind it.

Insofar as a threat on our shores, here are all the known groups, and threat levels assigned.

 

First hand experience doesn't matter.

Which is why I separated them as two entities. They're loosely associated as their intentions are the same, their brand is the same, and they have "chapters" in individual cities. It doesn't mean they have a central authority at the top but, they're still an organization of organizations.

They can be outraged as much as they wish to be. Their voting habits are still recorded and you can clearly see in videos that blacks are taking advantage of this "justification" to loot businesses and attack people. But just as the officer's who stood around when Floyd died are being charged with murder shouldn't the same be said for those who stood around watching their fellow rioters loot and attack people be just as guilty? Some of them laughed, cheered, egged people on, or silently watched it happen while doing nothing to stop it.

"This narrative the right is painting that "looters are leftists" is a right wing propaganda agenda to associate leftism with criminality, which is rich considering republican administrations in modern times have committed far more crimes than democratic administrations."

This doesn't dismiss the fact that Antifa and the BLM are leftwing movements. They're committing crimes through all of the riots. So.. it's a left wing riot. Just because the right wing extremists exists it somehow doesn't attribute the rioting & looting to the left?

 

The evidence is in, After Ebola, Obama set up the world wide infrastructure pandemic response team, even had 60 page manual on how to land on the ground running, which Trump disbanded the entire thing and burned the book ( did nothing with it ) Nothing could be more further from the truth on this point.

The ACA was a radical change in our health care system, it was 2700 pages. The federal exchange web page had a lot of glitches, we admit that, but they were resolved over time. As for Obama's misspeaking on Doctors, okay, he mispoke. That's what he thought, and he was wrong. No president in history has done more for me personally more than Obama, and there are millions like me.

Trump's popularity only exceeded Obama's briefly. Almost every survey conducted, Obama's was higher. That's a fact.

It's a lot higher than Trump now. Let's see a survey that is current on both, I'll bet Obama cremes Trump. The 48% you see on Obama wasn't current, it was the stat when he left office. I'll bet it's way higher now because the ACA is a lot more popular now. Obama is missed by my dem brethren, I get this a lot on my FB page, all my friends are dems. Well, one of my friends is a Christian but repub moderate.

 

The approval of Obama and Trump are within the margin of error.

 

Antifa is a pariah amongst my dem friends. I should think the same holds true for neo-nazis, KKK and Trump.

BLM are not looting or rioting. Angry blacks are, outraged over police brutality. I don't condone it, but that's what it is.

I've been among democrats throughout my life, and we don't riot. Your attempt to paint it as 'left' is right wing propanda to associate leftism with criminality.

The vast majority of corporate criminals are republicans. The vast majority if criminals in presidential adminstrations are republicans.

So don't give me this 'leftist" crap.

In fact, the entire GOP is a runaway criminal enterprize and it's number one criminal is Donald Trump.

 

I don't care about your social circle. Antifa is praised online and is seen as a champion against the evil Trump supporters since Trump has been President. You remember when it was okay to punch a "Nazi" or is it still okay? Because Antifa drew the line that anyone supporting Trump is a Nazi. Is it okay to still punch me in the face?

Didn't know BLM members wore signature clothing that identified whether they were members or not. Or did you card each and every looter to confirm they weren't BLM?

Where the hell have you been for the past four years? It's been continual destruction of property by left wing groups such as ANTIFA all around the country. Terrorizing people on the streets and making it well know that if you're a Trump supporter they would "punch you in the face". Let me guess.. ANTIFA doesn't exist and is somehow not left leaning?

 

If the leadership is correct then yes they will st down and talk

 

Since when have Nazis been the undertrodden poor widdle boys afraid of being punched?

Why should I have sympathy for anyone identifying with a terrorist organisation like nazism?

 

Everyone is a "Nazi" right of Bernie Sanders. Also Nazis haven't existed since 1945 unless you're referring to the Neo-Nazi skinheads who act like complete degenerates.

 

Antifa is a loose consortium of ad hoc groups, and are in no way shape or form part of mainstream or progressive democrats. The DNC does not have anything to do with them, nor does Pelosi, Schumer, myself, my party members, chapters.

If you think that is true, then how about dems go around and tell the world that the KKK and Neo Nazis are a republican sponsored and supported right wing operation that you personally love and condone

In other words %&^&^*&^*&^* You

 

I'll file that in the wishful thinking file.

 

But still true. Not like this great margin over Obama that you are claiming. Face it. Neither was overly popular.

 

Ah so it went from not being an organization to a "loose consortium"... funny this loose consortium all share the same ideals and tactics when it comes to engaging anyone who isn't on their side. Violence. The DNC has plenty to do with them as many rank and file DNC members are also members of ANTIFA or at least support it. Where is your direct link to the Trump administration to that of the KKK & Neo Nazis? Can you point out an official that has direct ties to either group that hasn't been fired/let go? So far you've only proven you're either blind or a liar.

 

Obama had an MSM in his pocket making him look like a glowing star for 8 yrs. Lying about his accomplishments and covering up anything negative.
vs
Trump who has an MSM that makes him look like a demon 24/7. They also lie and cover up about his accomplishments while highlighting EVERYTHING negative.

The fact the numbers are even comparable speaks volumes for Obama’s failures when he had the world propping him up while Trump hs the world beating him down.