POLL: 95 Percent of BBC Viewers Think Multiculturaism Has Failed

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  1. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists

    That list is not just talking about Carver and peanuts. "Invented a method of fabricating an imaging X-ray spectrometer", "Probability theory and Markov chain theorist", "Silicon retina able to process images in the same manner as a living retina", "Artificial heart pacemaker control unit."...yes, these are real scientists.

    The only Asian nation that has ever come close to us was Japan...who failed to resist our invasion of their homeland after preemptively attacking us. They have failed to maintain their lead in many commercial and scientific areas of technology (Cell phones and robotics come to mind). They may be "advanced" relative to Europeans...to us, not so much. Their greater education does not appear to have helped them to compete with us...there are theories on why that is. They do not send their best to their own universities of course...they send them here. Where the best universities in the world are located.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    It is just an nihlistic Marxist attempt to erase and destroy culture. It's the same moonbats who'll claim the founders are "evil" because they owned slaves while at the same time demanding their own Constitutional rights, or who'll claim corporations are all "evil" while owning sweatshopped produced goods.

    They're the dreck of society, nothing more. Right up there with Westboro Baptist Church as far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    So people with opinions you don't like are stupid. Ok.

    Lets see if that happens. I am ok subjecting myself to the judgement of future generations.

    It's not just a fringe group that believes this. Are you going to explain to us next how Hitler was misunderstood?

    Slavery is objectively evil. It is is evil under all circumstances. There is no circumstance where enslaving innocent people would not be evil.

    So stuffing Jews into ovens would not make me evil...it's only the act that is evil?

    Yeah, good luck trying to convince people of that.

    That is sociopathic reasoning. I do not mean that as an insult, I mean it in the literal sense.
     
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    Your Happy Meals life isn't based on reality. It's all a mirage. Most of us, including the US government, are drowning in a sea debt; and someday we will all have to pay the piper.

    Most people in the world are worse off than they used to be. They wallow in pollution and work for slave wages; or they live in refugee camps in Ethiopia. What the hell are you talking about? Are you working in some redundant Affirmative Action job that you can't be fired from? (re-read paragraph above.) You live in a dream world and I hope it kicks your ass.
     
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    No opinions which are based on stupid or faulty reasoning and facts are stupid.

    You're contradicting yourself - claiming on one hand that it's merely the "judgment" of others, while at the same time claiming that it's "objective".

    Godwin's law

    facepalm


    There are only objective results of actions, harmful or beneficial. Killing a person for example objectively destroys a life, but killing is not "objectively evil", since killing in self-defense is different than killing in cold blood for example. You're equating "evil" solely with the end result, but this isn't how "evil" behavior is determined.

    And committing an act which turns out to be objectively harmful does not equate to a person "being evil" - that's simply a layman's summary of a person. From an evolutionary POV however a member of a species' overall worth is determined by the overall tally of it's positive contributions to society against its negative, not by individual acts or "mortal sins" if you will.

    Plus as already mentioned, the level of "badness" of an act is determined by how much it deviates by society, not the simply the objective negative results of the act. You apparently think you know better than actual doctors and psychologists do. How quaint.

    Correct. A "person" is a biological being - a "person" can't be evil in a concrete sense since evil is an action, and a person can only commit actions, not "be" them. Whether or not a person is "evil" is a matter of personal opinion, and ultimately up to God to judge.

    However It'd be hard to sell the idea that someone who killed 12 million people's positive contributions outweighs the negative ones however. So most people would conclude that Hitler is evil based on how much he destroyed versus how little he contributed.

    58% of Americans don't believe in evolution. I thought you were trying to make serious talk, not just regurgitate what "the average Joe or Jane" thinks.


    Not at all. The act of murder or rape would be "evil" and the individual would have no excuse not to face society's judgment, however whether or not the "individual" is evil is pure opinion; and in the end the overall tally of their positive/negative contributions would be what determine their overall worth on society.

    From your posts for example I see little worth being contributed to society, since you seem hell bent simply on destroying society and values and not contributing to it, which by definition is quite anti-social, since it's literally anti-society and values itself.
     
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    I have never made the argument that killing is objectively evil. Whether or not it is evil depends on the circumstance.

    Since there is no absolute definition for "evil", I do not see your basis for argument. You seem to agree that evil exists. You just define it differently.

    The only definition that matters is that of the dominant culture. The actions and people (both) are evil because we define them as evil. We require no other reason.

    According to who?

    Society does not agree with you.

    Compassion and hate are also products of evolution. There are things people can do that cannot be made up for by "objectively" beneficial acts. If Joseph Mengele discovered a cure for cancer, we (society) would take his cure, and then happily execute him anyway. The fact that he cured cancer would not make up for his atrocities.

    I do understand you disagree. You're wrong. You're wrong because the rest of us, being stronger than you, declare you are wrong. We do not need a reason other than that.

    A person who commits evil acts willingly become evil themselves. The action does not exist in a vacuum.

    His contributions would not have mattered. We would have destroyed him regardless.

    LOL! Source?

    I think you have your numbers reversed - http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

    A majority of Americans believe in evolution in some form.

    Your opinions are not correct by default. If you are making claims that go against conventional thinking, the burden is on you to provide the evidence.

    So what? You could also say "whether or not this ice cream tastes good depends on opinion"...BFD. There is an obvious consensus.

    Oh no, anonymous judgement from the internet. I've never experienced that before.

    If it makes you feel better, I can't do it by myself.
     
  7. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    It is a Confederate flag. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Battle_flag

    The Confederates did embrace slavery. Explicitly. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Constitution#Slavery

    These are objective facts.

    The confederates fought in defense of it.

    So what? Irrelevant even if true. That does not make the confederates LESS abominable. At best, that makes the Confederates just as bad as those Africans.

    If the values were really world wide there would have been no civil war.
     
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    Economics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

    They are making us richer as well.

    Not relative to Mexico and China.

    Not seeing Mexico and China in that short list.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Not all of them. But most of them.

    I am passing judgement on their actions.

    It's not like I'm the first one to do so. Everyone who voted for the 13th Amendment judged them as well.

    Morally inferior, yes. Their actions would be evil by today's standards. They rationalized things then that we would never rationalize now.

    Appeal to tradition argument. Rejected for the usual reasons.

    Just because something was done in the past is not evidence that it is correct or good or even acceptable.

    I could see that happening. (I'm anti-abortion btw, and have never made a secret of it on here...so not sure what response you were expecting)
     
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    What is pathetic is that liberal know-nothings focus on the Confederate Flag, calling it "evil", while ignoring all other history of slavery.

    That ignorance is the evil among us.
     
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    LOL...no one is ignoring other examples of slavery in history. We know full well that the Egyptians and Hitler and lots of other cultures practiced slavery.

    We focus on the Confederate flag because it is personal. This happened in our own country, and our own ancestors were involved. And lots of people wave the flag around today that are not aware of it's origins.

    I agree. More people need to learn what the confederate flag really stood for originally.
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3 Everything in the US, and the greater world beyond it, and before it, stood for slavery at one time or another. Yet the apologists and white-guilt sycophants want to blame the Confederacy, and not acknowledge any of the larger truths.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    Nope, it is time we kick the racists to the curb, the sooner the better.
     
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    So then why live here? Defect. :wink:
     
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    Societies did not used to declare slavery evil, therefore according to you it wasn't evil. You can't have it both ways.

    Are you going to make like Gavin Rossdale and slit your wrists now or actually add something to the table?
     
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    Why don't we separate? You hate racists. We despise diversity warriors. You can live with your beloved minorities and we will live by ourselves.

    One thing you must stop. You must stop cleansing this country of whites.
     
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    Lol, the cleaners called. Your hats and robes are ready for pick up. :cheerleader:
     
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    Guess Native Americans should be the most pissed off huh?
     
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    They gonna take er kuntry and er guns! Dem d*mned libruls!
     
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    yet another xenophobic racist post by one of our resident white nationalists.

    idiotic straw poll of a handful of people of zero statistical value.

    Interesting what depths some have to go to in an effort to make their case.
     
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    I think the FBI needs to look into your internet conversations.
     
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    weak. You wont be laughing when your community is high in diversity.

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    Xenophobic because I want to preserve my heritage? Puhlease. If anyone has a phobia its you are your jewish friends who think were Nazis and want to throw them in ovens. I don't think you guys can survive a conversation without your favorite word, which is racist.
     
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    Matt84, your mom called & said supper is ready upstairs. No more eating in the basement. Bye. :roflol:
     
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    Statistics don't show it. Seems to me the tech boom just provided a lot of information of the bad things going on. Not sure what objective reasoning one would make to say the 80s were better.

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    That's not evidence. That's your opinion.
     
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    Blacks and Mexicans have called this country racist for over century. Not sure what has changed now except more tolerance. Which is a good thing to some. Anyone who thinks race relations are bad now has never read a history book.
     

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