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If Jordan did not attack Israel in 1967, the West Bank would still be part of Jordan.

 

The Arabs failed to run the Israelis out.

End of story. It has been 70 years. It will be 300 years. Nothing will change.

 

Alright, instead of 'the Arab mind' read 'the Arab psyche'. Just because they're decent enough as individuals - and they usually are, especially (as I've heard) with their customary hospitality - doesn't change the fact that they rationalise differently to us.

 

Correction: No westerner understands the Arab mind except Margot.

 

The Jewish refugees who flocked to Palestine should have been kinder to the natives. They are human beings. You'd think they would have learned something when the Nazis took their jobs and citizenship away and treated them as if they were not human.

 

Jews have always lived in Palestine. The Arabs should have been kinder instead of trying to drive them out by violence. Violence begets violence. Stop the terror.

 

It was actually 1949 and they approached ARAMCO, Ibn Saud and the US government. The guy who tried to make it happen was Chaim Weisman and it involved the construction of Tapline.

 

Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave.

 

Actually, Jews & Arabs got along quite well for centuries until the arrival of European, Zionist Terrorist Gangs & foreign, militant Jewish Colonists.
It was the murderous & grasping Zionists who precipitated regional anti Israeli enmity.

Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies."CONTINUED

 

Then they should have been nicer.

 

The early European Jews that moved to Palestine were Bolsheviks or socialists of one type or another.. They despised the Arabs and looked on them as sub human whether they were Arab Christians, Muslims or Jews.

 

I think that anyone who has been to the Islamic Mid East for an extended time understands that Muslims want & respond well to essentially the same basic things as Westerners: fair treatment, respect, security are a few for starters. Why is that so confusing to you?

 

How "nice" would you be to arrogant, foreign Terrorists & land thieves that made clear their intention to push you out of your home of generations:

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

 

Jews have always lived in Palestine.

We certainly are not going to in America, however, let the Alt Right culturally appropriate our history and heritage.

 

Historically Palestine has only been able t sustain a small population. That's why the diaspora started 500 years before the birth of Christ. There were large Jewish populations in Alexandria, Damascus, Iran and Iraq as well as n Elephantine Island before the birth of Jesus.

 

Jews have always lived in Palestine in large numbers through at least the 6th century.

the Jews single-handely defended Haifa against Crusader invaders, while the Muslims defended the rest of Palestine.

 

There were never large numbers of anyone in Palestine.

 

millions of people is a pretty big number

 

I'm afraid that "Margot2" is right on this point:
Demographic history of Palestine (region)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
EXCERPT"According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews."CONTINUED

 

there seems to be some concensus that before modern technology Palestine could only handle a million or so people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

 

Palestine's population naturally varies from era to era


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
EXCERPT "A study by Yigal Shiloh of The Hebrew University suggests that the population of Palestine in the Iron Age could have never exceeded a million. He writes: "... the population of the country in the Roman-Byzantine period greatly exceeded that in the Iron Age..." Shiloh accepted Israeli archaeologist Magen Broshi's estimates of Palestine's population during the Second Temple Era, 1,000,000-1,250,000 and noted that Iron Age Israel's population must have been less considering population growth. "...If we accept Broshi's population estimates, which appear to be confirmed by the results of recent research, it follows that the estimates for the population during the Iron Age must be set at a lower figure."CONTINUED

 

ok, so what?

 

Closer to 750,000... You might read early accounts by Ibn Battuta and Rabbi Benjamin of Toledo.

 

during the height of the Jewish kingdoms the land probably had 1.2 million souls.

 

I was supplying the excerpt from the same article that came closest to supporting your earlier assertion.
It also supports my assertion that that era's (the Iron Age) Palestinian population could not have exceeded 1 million.

If you'll read down further in the whole article, you'll read where Magen Broshi's estimates on collective wheat production helped him to arrive at the figure 1 million max. pop.