Poll: Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans say they will not vote for any candidate who admits Biden won 'fair

I don't get that complaint at all. I'm not partisan and I know many POTs, "R", "D"s and "I"s.

All the Trumpers are 345+ years old so they don't understand why darkies get to vote at all.

The "R"s I know think all of it is too much drama.

The "D"s and "I"s and I are not opposed to Voter IDs. Hell, I'm trying to figure out how to make prerequisites before any idiot can walk out of hospital with a precious newborn.

Plus, I think it will curb some of this paranoia about widespread election fraud. I find it really strange that Orange Jesus can just say that he "won by a lot" without absolutely no proof and people are beating police officers on the Capitol steps. He turned his back on the arrestees and his supporters STILL worship him. That's way outside my knowledge of the human brain and abnormal psychology. That's downright scary.

Isn't it weird that they hold that one note with absolutely NO evidence? One minute they are claiming that "D"s should lose the right to vote because they aren't educated on the issues and the next minute they orchestrated a completely clandestine sniper level widespread election fraud without a trace?

My vote says that didn't happen even outside the whole "lack of evidence" thing. Nobody elected Biden because he's quick-witted or a formidable presence around the world. We voted to get rid of the Orange Stain. So, if X number of people planned this big caper, infiltrated every polling place and Post Office with fake ballots and nobody had an ounce of guilt and nobody gossiped (most of the Capitol rioters that were arrested were dumbasses that bragged about it and posted photos online. Duh.).

Let's go with that. ALL that happened.

Why in the hell didn't they cheat for a stronger candidate? They did all that for Biden? That makes no sense whatsoever.

 

Do you mean something like our then-POTUS watching hundreds of people beat the hell out of Capitol police officers and refused to call for back-up support for them?

Or, that it's been a year and a few weeks and he has yet to say the name of the 5 dead Capitol police officers or mention the hundreds that were injured.

To this day, Trump has never said any of the following names:

Brian Sicknick
Gunther Hashida
Kyle deFreytag
Jeffrey Smith
Howard Liebengood

So, it is "respect for the law" when law enforcement is on Trump's side but not any other time? Twice on Tuesdays, never in a leap year,?

What's the formula?

Do you mean appointing a new Postmaster to remove mailboxes and discontinue mail sorting machines and overtime prior to the election in communities unlikely to vote "R"?

Or, do you mean like not bullying Governors to find a specific number of votes

Or, not trying to manipulate the DOJ to say the election was corrupt?

Or, firing people for not being willing to repeat that lie?

Or, refusing to allow the incoming President's transition team to have access to meetings?

Or, taking extra money out of donors accounts and refusing to refund it until a judge ordered that it be done?

Or, creating fake schools and charities?

Or. misappropriation of inaugural funds?

Or, unleashing 5,000 psychopaths after removing a bulk of our soldiers in Afghanistan?


Which "respect" for the law do you mean? Just when it's swings things in Trump's favor or another leap year kind of deal?

What's the formula?

 

Tump's business got caught hiring illegals

and Trump did not restrict his mega corp tax cuts to only corps that did not outsource American jobs overseas

Trump was not America first, Trump was Trump first

 

So that's what? Approximately 16% of registered voters? A problem yes but the solution? If asked prevaricate, change the subject, lie and then deny doing so because .... etc, etc etc. Basically just be a politician. Accept the fact the fact that 16% of the population have basically 'drunk the Kool-Aid' and are convinced of the 'truth' no matter what the facts are. Big picture, it makes no difference. The same 16 % could believe the Earth is flat. (It probably would be the same 16 %). Just work around it.

 

Hundreds of officers were hurt that day. But to claim that the above 5 died due to the riot is nothing more than false. And I know you know this. Jeffery Smith committed suicide Jan 15. Howard Liebengood committed suicide Jan 9th. Kyle deFreytag committed suicide in July 2021. Gunther Hashida committed suicide in August 2021. Sicknicks death was called by the coroner as him having died of natural causes. You are disgracing them and the service that they provided by making them into political poster boys based on a lie.

All of which was determined to be removed BEFORE that new Postmaster even took the position.

Twisting what is said does you no favors.

Twisting what is said does you no favors.

Spin

Wow! You got one right!!! BRAVO!!! Yes, that was wrong of Trump.

Something that the judge should not have done quite frankly. EVERYONE knows to read the fine print.

blah blah blah. Get back to me when you can provide a more honest post.

 

And when they were caught they were fired. Trump runs tons of other businesses and does not micro manage every single one. He has people that hires other people that hires other people. To put this on Trump, even by implication is to ignore those facts.

So?

That is your opinion.

 

Do you ever get tired of using comments that can be considered racist, ageist, and bigoted towards Christians? Your comments does nothing for the left side of the aisle except give those on the right side proof that the left is full of racists. The fact that no one on the left ever calls you out on it supports it also.

 

We have different ideologies, that is obvious.

 

There is only one who died as a result of the Jan.6th riot. She was shot dead, unarmed by a random killer cop. The rest are all left wing propaganda. Trump never said anything about the many many cops killed in the summer riots.....so what? Only hundreds beat the hell out of Capitol Police? Well there were thousands available to do that job and it didn't happen. There were about three hundred angry, misguided protesters that are receiving more than their share of justice now. Notice, they didn't beat the hell out of Capitol Police that willingly let them in and actually guided them through other doors. Of course if Pelosi had taken Trump up on his National Guard offer, the Capitol Police would have been well protected!

 

Yes when you own huge hotel businesses run by many different managers, this happens in the corrupt nature of the system where laws are not enforced and illegals are all over the place with fake I'D.'s.
Are you implying Brandon is America First? I'd like to hear some examples.

 

Oh yes. And different approaches to winning elections.

 

Of course Trump supporters (Republicans) are people who believe in God (evangelical) and watch Fox News (the only cable network that leans conservative). Duh.

I've had serious concerns about the 2021 election, but not because of anything Trump said. But I think it's time we all let it go. In 2016 Dem insisted Hillary got cheated; now conservatives have done the same. Let's all stop saying it (including our divider-in -chief predicting election fraud, even though that's like admitting the election he won was fraudulent). Why don't we move forward and make sure our future elections are fair, thereby avoiding a civil war??

Obviously voter ID is a good thing, so as to be certain people don't vote multiple times and that they are American citizens. Also absentee voting is ok (but not massive mail-in) if you have a good reason for not being able to get to the polls, but yes, you still have to prove who you are. Common sense would be a good thing.

 

You just make a lot of sense!

 

most states require a person have a photo to request a voter ID card

but guess what?? millions have no photo ID...

this is why I say the voter ID should be connected to the social security number

damn near 100% of US citizens acquire a social security card in their teens

and guess what again...a photo ID is not needed to get the SS#

a birth certificate should be the main requirement for getting a voter ID card

and below is from a simple google search

https://www.romper.com/p/which-stat...-states-where-you-cant-vote-without-one-19105

 

You've already decided that the election wasn't "fair" despite all the evidence to the contrary - why? Because you read some stories on the internet? So
how could I answer a question that you really don't want answered?

Does fair to you mean perfect? That isn't going to happen. But given so little actual cheating was discovered (mostly Republican at that) and after many recounts
and investigation, no real instances of fraud were discovered - I'm going to say it was reasonably fair election.

But again - since your only bar for deciding the issue is stories on the internet - you aren't going to accept that answer - so I just wasted my time.

 

Which
completely fails to prove you're ridiculous claim

 

You couldn't answer it anyway and you know it. Because it is a subjective term. That is why you won't give your definition. And that is also why the OP's outrage is rather idiotic.

 

Indeed, and Trump is far from done infecting the GOP:

"If I run and if I win, we will treat those people from January 6 fairly. We will treat them fairly," Trump said on Saturday. "And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons. Because they are being treated so unfairly."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/31/poli...itol-riot-pardons-2024-republicans/index.html​

He is only growing more unhinged as time passes and the the walls of justice close in around him.

 

Campaigning to Oversee Elections, While Denying the Last One

PHOENIX — Nearly two dozen Republicans who have publicly questioned or disputed the results of the 2020 election are running for secretary of state across the country, in some cases after being directly encouraged by allies of former President Donald Trump.

Their candidacies are alarming watchdog groups, Democrats and some fellow Republicans, who worry that these Trump supporters, if elected to posts that exist largely to safeguard and administer the democratic process, would weaponize those offices to undermine it — whether by subverting an election outright or by sowing doubts about any local, state or federal elections their party loses.

For decades, secretaries of state worked in relative anonymity, setting regulations and enforcing rules for how elections were administered by local counties and boards. Some held their jobs for many years and viewed themselves not as politicians but as bureaucrats in chief, tending to such arcane responsibilities as keeping the state seal or maintaining custody of state archives.

... https://news.yahoo.com/campaigning-oversee-elections-while-denying-124534428.html​

The fascist overthrow of our democracy didn't end with Trump's loss in 2020, sadly.

 

Capitalism is inherently globalist. Up until Trump co-opted the Buchanan talking points, 90% of anti-globalist rhetoric came from the far left. Most pro-globalist rhetoric came from the pro-market right.

 

Globalism is about more than economics. Globalism is about open borders. And not just of goods, but of freeing information and people. It is about believing that the whole world is the proper sphere for their political influence. These peoples ultimate goal is a one world government.

 

So mostly a boogeyman, except when it relates to basic capitalist principles? Cool.

 

It is about the opinion of fair minded people who are informed and concerned about America’s loosy-goosy election system.
The pro election fraud contingent must be living under a rock.

 

Here's one such group: LINK: Pueblo Sin Fronteras - Wikipedia

And you may want to research what globalism actually means. LINK: globalism at DuckDuckGo

 

I'm not interested in fringe right anti-capitalist propaganda. Ever read the Wealth of Nations? No? That's okay. I doubt any modern "conservative" ever has. They are busy attacking capitalism.