Popular Model Announces New Movement of Widespread Jewish Exodus from Dem Party

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  1. Tim15856

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    Yellow dog Democrats, sure. Independents always determine the winner. The Leftist psychosis which has filled Democrats with so much hate is driving moderates away. Will they in turn vote for Trump is the question.
     
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    Ellen is definitely less of a mindless flake than the other two. I've always liked her.
     
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    Actually whether they vote for Trump or simply sit out the election without voting, it remains a win for Trump.
     
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    Of course not... no self respecting Independent (I count myself) would possibly vote for Trump after his performance over these 2+ years... He's a joke and not worth the effort, as Mrs. Pelosi stated..
     
  5. Tim15856

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    You have a high opinion of yourself, much like the so called Liberal intellectuals. Anyone with an ounce of intellect should care less what that old bat says.
     
  6. Stuart Wolfe

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    Well, that really depends on who the Dems have as their nominee. I've said it before and I'll say it again - and I myself am an Independent, although a Conservative one: I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against Hilla - and for all we know, the Dems may well end up nominating someone even worse.
     
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    I really hope people do get out and vote in 2020, otherwise it will be 4 more years of Trump
     
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    never said they were... just saying millions more Americans voted for Hillary then they did for Trump

    and I agree
     
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    Heck, I was wondering about it on this board back in 2012!

    Heh - that's the same post I always threw in Natty's face when he kept telling me I believed in the Romney Landslide! :)
     
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    ......
     
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    Don't they want all those Jews and others who are gaga over Trump to get out and vote?

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    “And, you know, I have a great relationship with African Americans,
    as you possibly have heard. I just have great respect for them
    and you know they like me.”
     
  12. US Conservative

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    They never were and never will be.

    Its science.
     
  13. Mr_Truth

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    Fake News!

    Here is the TRUTH:


    https://www.vox.com/2019/3/15/18267129/jexodus-trump-jews-democrats-israel


    Jexodus, a silly name for a fake thing
    The term “Jexodus” is a play on Candace Owens’s “Blexit” organization, which putatively aspires to lead African Americans out of the Democratic Party coalition. “Blexit” itself is a play on “Brexit” — something that has no literal relationship to American politics but which is intimately tied to Rupert Murdoch’s global right-wing propaganda broadcasting operation.

    While there’s nothing particularly black or British about the idea of exiting, however, the original Exodus was Jewish (Moses leading his people out of bondage, etc.), so the idea of a “Jewish Exodus” is extremely silly.

    It’s also fake.

    The alignment of American Jews with the Democratic Party is extremely longstanding, dating back at least to Woodrow Wilson’s close political relationship with Louis Brandeis. It survived significant tensions during the 1920s when many Democrats were also closely aligned with the Ku Klux Klan.

    According to exit polls, Democrats won 71 percent of the Jewish vote in 2016 and 79 percent in 2018. Polling by SSRS for the American Jewish Committee registers lower levels of Jewish support for Democrats but an identical trend: Democrats won 67 percent of Jews in 2016 and 74 percent in 2018.

    What is true is that the long-term trend looks a little different. According to Pew’s “trends in party affiliation” survey, 69 percent of Jews were Democrats or Democratic-leaning in 1994. This fell to 67 percent by 2017, easily within the margin of error.

    During the same period, the share of GOP-aligned Jews rose from 25 percent to 31 percent. That’s a pretty small shift over nearly a quarter of a century, but it happened during a time when highly educated people as a whole (about 60 percent of American Jews have college degrees) were showing a strong shift toward the Democrats.

    Consequently, it is arguably true that Jewish affiliation has become a weaker predictor of Democratic Party allegiance than it used to be — even though it is definitely not true that Jews are fleeing the Democratic Party.

    Republicans are hoping for a political windfall on Israel
    The larger story here is that Republicans keep hoping for — and not receiving — a big electoral windfall from the Israel issue.

    American Jews were members of the New Deal political coalition before the creation of the state of Israel. In the wake of World War II, they became an important pro-Israel constituency in the Democratic Party. To the extent that there was a constituency on the other side, it was largely in the Republican Party, which — through the intermediating influence of the oil industry — had more ties to the Arab states.

    The Eisenhower administration undermined a joint Franco-British-Israeli military operation during the Suez Crisis, and George H.W. Bush used US loan guarantees as leverage against Israel to check settlement construction. During the 2000 campaign and even early in his administration, there was a perception that a George W. Bush’s administration would be a “like father, like son” situation, and in July 2001, Congress bucked the White House to impose stronger sanctions on Iran and Libya, in a vote that pitted pro-Israel groups against oil interests.

    Things turned out very differently, however. The post-9/11 ascendancy of neoconservative hawks over so-called realists in the Bush administration, paired with the growing influence of Christian Zionists in GOP politics, plus a burgeoning (albeit quiet) anti-Iranian alliance between Israel and the oil-rich Gulf monarchies created an incredibly strong alignment between the Republican Party and the ascendant Israeli right.

    During the same period, American Muslims have been slowly incorporated into the Democratic Party’s diverse coalition, Barack Obama’s administration saw significant tensions with both Israel and the Gulf monarchies over Iran, and the most strident critics of Israel in America are virtually all on the left.

    This has not, in practice, generated an electoral windfall for Republicans among American Jews — perhaps in part because many of the high-profile critics of Israel, like Sen. Bernie Sanders, are themselves Jewish — who are not necessarily as single-mindedly focused on this issue as Republicans would like them to be. Many American Jews find Christian Zionism to be an alarming apocalyptic cult that accords poorly with the actual substance of Jewish Zionism.

    And more broadly, while American Jews are largely (though by no means unanimously) supportive of Israel, most do not see political support for Israel to be an adequate substitute for supporting a pluralistic vision of the United States of America, which, after all, is where American Jews live. The contention that Jews should vote Republican because Republicans are stronger backers of the Israeli government isn’t identical to the “dual loyalties” issue that got Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) in trouble earlier this months, but it’s not entirely unrelated either. The reality is that American Jews are Americans, not Israelis, and while elements of GOP social conservatism appeal strongly to Orthodox Jews, for most Jewish Americans, Jewish values and Jewish identity are tied up with openness and pluralism in a way that makes the GOP a very hard sell.










    Like everything else about the right wing it is totally FAKE.
     
  14. US Conservative

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    See the excellent Vice News documentary on blexit.
     
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    Vice?

    Sorry, I don't do porn.
     
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    Jewish people as they begin to more fully appreciate that evangelical Christians are not the boogeyman will slowly overtime move more and more to the Republican party. I think more and more Jewish people are discovering there is probably nastier antiSemitism on the relatively mainstream left than there is on the relatively mainstream right.
     
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    Not so. I correspond with folks online all the time, many of whom are Jewish patriots and they know that right wingers are their real enemies. For years deluded right wingers have accused libs of being antisemitic but, as usual, it is nothing more than their usual projections of their own hatred and prejudices. Everybody who is honest knows fully well, progressives are more open minded, far more unprejudiced, and that the vast majority of Jews remain from that political persuasion.
     
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    I've heard through the grapevine that thus far a grand total of 6 Jewish voters have left the democratic party. Well, that's a start anyhow.
     
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    The Democrat party controls much of the media.

    They would never be biased, would they?
     
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    huh? think you replied to wrong post
     
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    that's funny! :)
     
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    The irony here is that even though six million Jews were slaughtered, their Olympic athletes massacred, their tourists thrown overboard, their planes high jacked, their steady bombardment by rockets, their citizens being murdered on their own streets, and calls to wipe them off the face of the earth, the left has finally found a group of people who aren’t victims.
     
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    When I see an establishment liberal Democrat Alan Dershowitz indicating he may leave the Democratic party because of the large amount of antisemitism on the left in movements like BDS, Republicans/conservatives have a good chance to gain more Jewish support over the next decade

    A very small amount of liberal Jewish influencers(media) are still misleading a the American people and Jewish people. For example, the alt-right has largely turned against Trump and the media doesn't report that.
     
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    Certainly no more then the conservative party who controls the media on the right. Both are a part of the same hypocrisy.
     
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    Your "left" is a fantasy, a boogieman injected into your noggin by ideological media entertainers.

    Furthering the fulfillment of the proposition that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights" is n eminently American aspiration.
     

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