Poroshenko: Nearly all 1500 monuments to Lenin demolished in Ukraine.

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Why shall I know show you facts again, which I still showed you and which you still rated in your ignorance as Western / Polish fakes but then also coming with worst BS as counter proof?

    But OK ... I will waste some time now with 3 examples of facts you still rejected as fake... :

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    However, on 21 October 2013, the Grand Chamber of the ECtHR largely reversed its 2012 ruling, basing its decision as follows: In 1998, when Russia joined the ECHR, the murder of POWs was already a "proven historical fact" that the relatives had no doubt about the fate of the victims. Therefore, the cessation of criminal investigations into the mass murders by the Russian judiciary is not to be considered as "inhuman treatment" of the victims' members and does not entitle them to compensation. The absence of cooperation between the Russian judiciary and the ECtHR since 2004 continued to condemn it.

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    In 2009, Stalin's grandson Yevgeny Yakovlevich Dzhugashvili sued the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta for reminding Memorial to Stalin's murder order for Katyn with a memorandum from Memorial. The lawsuit was dismissed as nonsensical by a Russian court.

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    The then Soviet military prosecutor's office began in the fall of 1990 investigations. She interviewed some surviving perpetrators, including Pyotr Soprunenko and Dmitri Tokarev. This revealed essential details about the organization and the course of the mass murders. However, on 21 September 2004, the prosecutor closed the case without a judgment and final report and declared two-thirds of the evidence to be secret, since it contained state secrets. The deeds of that time are now legally barred.

    So if it was not the NKVD, why is it justified that the act of the NKVD and its members involved is barred ... contradicts!
     
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    As I expected, your comment is meaningless nonsense. Even I in the commentary above showed arguments of the Germans and the Poles are more qualified than you. And I produced a disclosure. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Just go up one comment above and read.

    Your arguments are similar to the British delirium about poisoning in Salisbury - "we have evidence, but we will not show them to you"

    Or like crazy Dutch dilettantes who claim that the Russians shot down an aircraft over Ukraine, and at the same time, as evidence, show fragments not part of the 9M38 "Buk-M1" anti-aircraft missile, but the fragments of the missile 9M79 of the "Tochka" tactical missile system. Instead of a ground-to-air missile, they showed the propulsion part of the earth-to-surface missile

     
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    What is earth-to-surface missile?
     
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    The missile from ground-based weapons (for example, the "Tochka") to defeat ground targets. No air
     
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    By the way, I have a rare photo for you. Without irony or ridicule. This is a really rare photo. Maybe you will be interested. It's a story, whatever it is.

    The announcement reads: "The store is closed by the police for the increase in prices. The store owner was sent to Dachau." Signed: "Chief of the political police of Bavaria Heinrich Himmler", Munich, 1933

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    These are surface-to-surface missiles. At least in English.

    What is the source of this information?
     
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    O dear ... what I expected to come ... only rediculous BS as answer. But no wondering ... these are facts I named ... but how you rate them was still before clear.

    Why do I waste my time with someone who has lost any sense for realities like you? A good question...
     
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    So what ... only wondeirng why no Jeish Star is painted on the window... and in the end only a shrug from my side, because no idea what this has to do with the undenyable fact that Kathyn was done by the NKVD ...

    You know that Putin confimed that it was the NKVD in 2010?
     
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    Videoconference of the Dutch feeble-minded "experts
     
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    NKVD in 2010? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    how do you know that they presented the parts of the wrong missile?
     
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    I understand taking down monuments, statues etc. But why destroy it? Its a part of their history in which they very much took part of.
    Store it in a museum, call it what you want, but don't destroy your damn History. Same should go for Germanys Nazi History, American slavery etc.
     
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    Well we usually have a History. World did not start by the end of the 1990s.
     
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    No, get rid of the Nazi monuments and all the Communist monuments. All of it was a mistake.
     

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