Pot should be nationally legaized (with one caveat)

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Its not the governments job to run our lives. This is just more big government from the rw.

    Nixon, the most corrupt politician we've seen until Trump, started the war on drugs. It has been a total disaster.

    Reject the right wing's big government. Legalize all drugs.
     
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    Let's call it THC then. That is a derivative not commonly associated with recreational use.
     
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    So your position is that people are not actually responsible for their own actions.
     
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    Is that like the War on Poverty started by LBJ,the most corrupt politician since either Clinton or Obama, that has been a total disaster?
     
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    As noted in a previous post, even that is illegal per the Federal laws and regulations. After all you can't make the THC and other derivatives unless you actually grow the plant.
     
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    So........would the OP approve them same requirement being applied to alcohol, which kills far more people every year than pot?
     
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    Overall the effect of both are the same.

    Blurred vision, impairment of judgement, motor skills, etc......Not all marijuana causes phycodelic effects.
     
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    True, and adolescent moments may occur under the influence.
     
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    Go ahead and legalize pot, but strengthen the DUI laws, and working under the influence. No one is forcing the user to use cannabis, we've been told it is not addictive, so the seller cannot be held liable for someone's personal choices.

    The same laws should be applicable to alcohol but with mandatory minimum sentencing. So some judge can't take pity on someone, you do the crime, do the time. Sorry it would definitely weed out the losers in society.
     
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    Rofl! I'm sure this was inadvertent, but it's still beautiful.
     
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    I have seen Indica extract, Phoneix Tears cure cancer. This would hurt big pharma, who sells a ton of chemo therapy agents like vinkristin. Now, it might not cure all types of cancer, but I saw it cure lung cancer. The doctor would not believe it, and said it was just one of those rare cases. Yeah, right. It is a travesty to keep a cure for some cancers illegal. No, it is ****ing evil, so go to hell Jeff Sessions.
     
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    No it was deliberate...Glad someone finds it humorous. The problem with pot is that it slows reaction times and critical thinking. I don't want someone working around CNC machines that is under the influence of pot or alcohol. So as long as employers are protected from frivolous lawsuits, the users can keep working at Starbucks and leave the dangerous jobs to people who don't need some drug to escape their lives.
     
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    You're preaching to the choir.

    I'm well aware of the versatile nature of cannabis. Keep these posts up though, many more need to hear.
     
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    All marijuana has THC to one degree or another.
     
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    Do you have the same concerns for prescription medication?

    Bottom line is that unless you can prove the critical nature of your employee's job, such as in transportation, you have no right to know the medical history of your employees. Millions of people are prescribed medications daily, and many of them are just starting or switching drugs who have no idea whether or not they may have an adverse reaction to the side effects.
     
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    THC is the high in Marijuana. It is the only thing extracted for medical use. That's why I say make that medicinal part legal. It isn't recreational in itself.
     
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    They tried that way back in the 80's, the thing is that THC works in conjunction with the other cannabinoids so simply using THC alone will not provide the same medicinal value as the whole.
     
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    I'm not asking for their medical history, I'm stating that if there is an industrial, transportation accident..And that person is found to be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or other...then the employer has the right to terminate and not be responsible for medical bills incurred during the accident because the person involved was using. And most medications that are prescribed will tell someone that they should not drive or operate machinery.

    And yes I have seen the consequences of someone sanding their fingers almost completely off because they smoked a joint at lunch...Not the employers fault.
     
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    There's already existing law that covers that.
     
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    Yet still unscrupulous lawyers will try to get a lawsuit going against the company because it is usually cheaper to settle out of court....These type of lawyers need to be held accountable for extortion and losing their license to practice, if not thrown in jail.
     
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    There's two sides to every coin.
     
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    How about the people, like my wife, for whom the drug has actual medicinal use? So far the current legal prescription drugs cannot touch her migraines. And there are others uses, such as with autism and Parkinson's. These people need it not to escape their lives but reclaim them. Granted the most effective form may not be leaf smoking, but right now that is all that is available to them, and at risk.
     
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    Not so much as preaching to the choir, as singing with it. My comment was meant to support and expand upon yours
     
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    I'm assuming that your wife does not work around heavy machinery or the types of job that can cause you to lose a limb if not your life, that is what has me concerned. I've been a first responder where a kid, 22, lost the first part of four fingers on his left hand, because he decided to smoke a joint at lunch. It's not something I like having to deal with because of someone's stupidity. He was working around dangerous machinery, and he put his own health and the health of others near him at risk, because he had to smoke a joint. He tested positive for marijuana, admitted he smoked at lunch, and was terminated on the spot. So he lost fingers, he lost his job, and then had no health insurance to cover medical expenses...

    I have no problem with your wife using it for migraines, as long as she doesn't get into a car and drive, getting into a wreck which possibly costs someone else their life or health.
     
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    I guess my point is that these situations are already covered by existing law, for currently legal drugs. I am trying to figure out if you are asking for something additional for marajuana becoming legal.
     

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