Power and liberalism corrupt; absolute power and absolute liberalism corrupt absolutely.

and what if you find out its true? then what? will you apologize for not knowing the obvious, for being brainwashed by a liberal corrupt press, will you then decide communism is not so bad?? What???

 

odd how the communists love him isn't it?? Must just be coincidence that Barry loved Frank Marshall David too??

 

can the liberal try again in better English

 

I see... So insanity is your defense for not being able to quote the part of the Constitution, according to you, makes a government of a certain size illegal.

It's either insanity or inebriation. In either case it's clear you're just wasting our time.

 

i'm already a communist, and if i find out that obama actually advocated for substantially leftist policies it would mean that a good deal of official documentation is wrong, so i think that would be my first priority

 

cool!! only 120 million dead so far. I say keep trying till you've killed 200 million then try capitalism. China just switched to capitalism, saved another 60 million lives, and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on the planet but try to ignore that!!

 

I already told you that the enumerated powers in effect make liberalism illegal in America. Why cant the liberal try to put into words where he is confused?

 

The communists know the numbers of dead that they are responsible for. The problem is they just don't care. They'll put us all in either gulags or body bags, and then shallow graves when they run out of body bags.

That's their whole plan, and violence is a key aspect of the plan. The revolution is needed, and that requires a whole lot of dead people. Can't make an omelette without breaking a hundred or so million eggs.

 

well, maybe you are right but I tend to think they are just very very stupid and so figure the next time will be different. Instead of 60 million dead there will be 60 million happy campers with their fair share of the pie.
But, looking through all of human history teaches us that our leaders have killed 100's of millions, but no leaders are more deadly than liberal communist leaders doing it for our own long term good!

 

i mean, even the comically overblown "120 million" estimate of robert conquest's still doesn't match up to 10 years of death by poverty in capitalist states and it charts 70 years of marxist-leninist states but okay

 

No, it's well understood by communists that revolution is required for communism to become a reality. The only disagreement amongst communists is who will lead this revolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletarian_revolution

This isn't a secret, and they're quite open about desiring that violence, as you can plainly see by Murray's response. Then there's antifa who are communists, and we all know how they have no qualms concerning violence.

Make no bones about it, they'd rather see us dead than alive.

 

Do you understand how ineffectual your posts become when you end them all as if you are talking to a child? Condescension never breeds respect. Learn a new tactic.

 

The enumerated powers refer to which powers are granted to Congress. Quote the part of the Constitution where the size the government needs to be is addressed..

Last chance....

 

correct, and treasonous liberals want to give Congress the President and Court many more powers. Do you get it now?

 

There is no such a thing as pure liberal or pure conservative. Everything exists on a spectrum. YOU are part liberal.

Heck, I'm just going to start calling you a liberal. If being liberal at all makes you a liberal, then you're a liberal.

Hey you crazy liberal!!!

 

the enumerated powers limit the size power scope govt to the enumerated powers which is why liberals would die if govt was cut back to basic enumerated powers

Here is quote from Madison with which to begin your education:
Our tenet ever was... that Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated, and that, as it was never meant that they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action; consequently, that the specification of powers is a limitation of the purposes for which they may raise money." --Thomas Jefferson to Albert Gallatin, 1817. ME 15:133

 

all agree, so??????????????????

 

if you disagree with the substance of conservatism please say why or admit you cant and prefer to change the subject to cover up.

 

I disagree with your inane condescension. Start acting like an adult and I would be happy to debate the "substance of conservatism".

 

wrong, liberalism is based in ignorance and liberals now oppose free speech to avoid debate. Ever see conservative make excuses to avoid a debate?? What does that teach you?

 

I see but if liberalism is not worthy of condescension why cant you say something in defense of it? We wait for you to find a clever way to avoid the question and to in effect avoid democracy and again demonstrate liberalism is worthy of condescension.

 

What "more power" are you talking about?... You mean like the power to send somebody to do the duties of a Secretary of State before they are confirmed by Congress, like the Constitution requires? Oh, wait.... that wasn't the liberals that did that, was it?

Don't bother... You're just going to come with one of those "loony" conspiracy theories the extreme right is so good at fabricating..

And that was your last chance to answer the question anyway... And you didn't

Better luck next time.

 

You've made my case for me. No need to expound on the obvious.

 

The obvious is that you cannot defend liberalism are not fit for democracy and that liberalism is worthy of condescension

 

The enumerated powers don’t include any of the social welfare programs like welfare Medicaid Medicare social security etc. These represent a huge huge expansion of the federal government far beyond anyone’s imagination based on what Was contemplated by the enumerated powers. Now do you understand?