Pres. Trump Wants Rep. Adam Schiff Arrested For Treason

The impeachment investigation is going to involve a variety of things. The use of a "shadow government" and withhold aid already appropriated by Congress, to "encourage" another government to cooperate with that "shadow government," is the Ukrainian charge.

 

Wow, I have never seen someone use Neo-Marxist tactics so thoroughly in one post, that they have 7 different ways of trying to subvert the actual conversation.

Do you guys think you are actually gaining support with such "non answer" answers?

 

I guess obstruction of justice is cool....He said he cannot vindicatie him from obstruction of justice,

 

When someone uses the term Marxist you know that they don’t even understand the word but it’s scary to them so they use it. Trump sure knows his base just manipulate them by fear

 

Cant be obstruction of a non crime.

 

It's certainly more difficult, but an underlying crime isn't necessary. "Obstruction" is a crime in itself, because it is against the justice system.

 

I've seen several times Article 1 Section 6 of the US Constitution cited as precedent allowing representatives to lawfully lie their asses off before Congress.

https://dictionary.thelaw.com/constitution-of-the-us-article-1-section-6/

Such as claimed here, as an example.

"Members of Congress are given an absolute privilege to lie with impunity in the House or Senate, if they so desire, by the Speech or Debate Clause in Article I, Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution. It states that, with regard to senators and representatives, “for Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.” The Framers of the Constitution wanted to encourage debate in Congress, and they did not want that debate chilled by the threat of lawsuits."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/01/who-can-lie-to-congress.html

I don't think Treason will stick here.

 

When someone uses personal attacks without using a single shred of thought, you know they are a Marxist.

Care to actually debate? I would LOVE to make a Marxist look foolish.

Or do you just want to use the typical Marxist tactic of attacking the person, not the idea?

And yes, I have read all Engels, Marx, Hobbes, Derrida, Foucault, so please, I would love to hear your thoughts proving you are a parrot of Marxists higher up than you

 

Are you saying that if a person threatens someone and they are not able to work or carry out their duties, it doesn't matter since everyone is entitled to their freedom of speech?

By the same token, if a person calumniates the President of the US in order to hinder him from carrying out his presidential responsibilities and duties, it shouldn't be considered treason since he's only exercising his freedom of speech.

Do you realize that the Democrat bastards, or whoever is behind them, are limiting the power of our President to conduct foreign policy? Foreign leaders are fearful of speaking to Trump now because their conversations might be exposed to the public. Wasn't foreign policy a Constitutional right given to our President, so why is he now expected to turn everything over to Congress. Who gave Congress that right?

The same thing could be said of every person in the world including you: 'We have not found any evidence that you committed a crime, but that doesn't mean you didn't."

 

You haven’t answered my question

Has Schiff behaved as abnormally as Trump

 

Not good news at all for democrats. Rudy should refuse to give them anything unless he gives it to the press at the exact same time. The dems will try to hide anything that helps Trump and harms Biden.

 

I am sure he does, and he probably wants the whistle blower dead. Apparently there is already a $50K bounty on his/her head and the person is in protective custody.

 

Sorry hun, but we live in a country in which you're innocent till proven guilty.
KEEP AMERICA GREAT!!!

 

Typical false liberal media statement. There is a $50k bounty for the identity, not the head of the whistleblower

 

I would go the opposite direction. The current strategy of criminals trying to make criminals out of each other is not good for the country.

 

According to your post, this is what is in the Constitution: “for Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.” As for your interpretation of it, you are dead wrong because law suits were non existent. Now if you said duals, then it would have been a different matter.

To put it bluntly, our Founding Fathers were Christian seminarians who believed democracy wouldn't be able to exist without strong moral principles - which means that calumny and foul language would be unheard of.

Our Founding Fathers wanted Congress to feel free to debate within the chamber without having to answer to anyone. Limiting that right could lead to tyranny. Yet today, the Democrats expect our President to reveal a conversation with a foreign leader when the right to conduct foreign policy is a right given specifically to our President.

 

They think Trump belongs to the Clinton crime family.

 

I dont see it .

 

I'm not saying I agree with the interpretation of the law, only that the precedent seems to have been set. I think that precedent makes any attempt of charging a representative with treason about as likely to succeed as the current attempt to impeach Trump- not very. I also think its important that folks understand that whether or not its technically lawful for our representatives to lie in front of Congress (and therefore use it as a platform to get away with lying to the whole nation), it is commonly accepted and practiced. Although, perhaps an attempt at formally charging someone for doing it would better illuminate that practice even if the charges don't stick... More likely, no one that values what Schiff has to say is likely to care that he lies his ass off. I'm referring to the 'by an means necessary' crowd, of course.

 

Normally the lying would have repulsed Congress, since our government like society had a defined sense of right and wrong. Today it's tolerated as is every other offense - which only shows how removed we have become from the simplest rudiments of a civilized society.

And this is what we want to impose on the world?

HORRORS!​

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And the beauty of that Senate Trial would be that everyone from Obama to Lisa Page to Hillary Clinton to Clapper and Comey would be called and forced to testify under oath. That would really be an extravaganza.

 

. Trump was never charged with any crimes or misdemeanors despite a two year investigation by Dem lawyers, 500 witnesses, FBI investigations and $35 million spent. If that is not 'vindication' it is certainly exoneration. No crime, no time. How disappointed you and your fellow travellers must feel.

 

Of course he couldn't. That's not how the system works.

 

You're gaslighting the forum. We have the uncontested version of a telephone call where Trump pressures a foreign leader to get him dirt on Joe Biden.

 

modernpaldin - I think the problem here is Soros and the Washington ideologues who want a one world government - something I adamantly oppose. Our Founding Fathers to assure the freedom of the American people and to avoid tyranny, put limits on the power of the Central government. I believe that the smaller the entity, the more rights and freedoms people have, so to me a one world government is nothing but a total enslavement of humanity.

Trump said in his speech at the UN that he believes in sovereign nation/states and this might be the reason Pilosi started the impeachment process. By doing this, they are preventing him from conducting foreign policies that would benefit the American people, rather than the one world government of the ideologues.

Isn't this treason against our government and Constitution? If not, then what does constitute treason?