Preschool Funding in $3.5 Trillion Spending Bill Is Modeled After Failed Head Start Program

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes I read it and the governments unbias'd own study stands. Your's seem to want to move the point of measurement long after when there are way too many other influences. But to that point.


    And since that one and yours

    A new study questions whether Head Start still produces long-run gains seen in past research
    "That’s why a new study comes a surprise. When researchers used similar methods as Deming to look at students born later, mostly between 1986 and 1996, they found that Head Start provided no clear long-term benefits. If anything, the program led to somewhat worse outcomes.

    The research offers some of the most up-to-date information about how Head Start affects students years later, and raises questions whether Head Start continues to deliver the positive outcomes it did in the past. In 2016-17, a third of U.S. 3- to 5-year-olds living in poverty were enrolled in the program.

    “We’re using methods that have been accepted for a long time … and now we’ve got a bunch of negative results,” said Dylan Lukes, a Harvard graduate student and one of the authors.
    https://www.chalkbeat.org/2019/8/8/...produces-long-run-gains-seen-in-past-research

    And we see the outcomes continue to fall for the children targeted by Head Start.
     
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    American children are way behind other countries' children when it comes to education. It has been proven that earlier learning is essential. So this is a twofer in my mind - parents can work and children get a head start in schooling.

    Hey, I came from a 'mom at home' environment too - but that isn't economically feasible for the vast majority.
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    WITH early education being the hot ticket. It is NOT proven this early education produces any measurable results after the 3rd grade and in fact has some negative outcomes, see cites above. Get your economics in order and prioritize. My wife and I did it. Yes you sacrifice but if you aren't ready to do that for you children you aren't ready for your children.
     
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    If you're determined not to conceive, it's easy to avoid. If however, someone isn't entirely determined to avoid a conception, then they'll take risks .. and every procreation but those accompanied by surgical sterilisation is a risk to some degree. We often wing it and hope for the best.
     
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    Humans are animals predetermine to mate. Sometime conception happens.
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I adopted two girls and pretty much none of this is what we experienced.

    There was no cost to adopt, in fact even our attorney was paid for by the state, the financial support provided during foster continues and actually increases as the kids age cutting off at 18.

    In any case, adopting isn't for everybody and you can't blame them. It's a tough situation. I'm living it.

    There are so many kids in need, I wish more did it.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im pro-choice and still think people should be responsible financially support the children they pop out. Otherwise we support popping out kids the parents think others are responsible for supporting.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just more excuses to attempt to make others financially responsible for poor choices.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing like a collective solution to an individuals problem. Amiright?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A. Pay for my kids
    B. Pay for me to sit on my ass
    C. None of the above
     
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    Good on you. Im glad is wasn't such a hardship for you, and I very much respect adopters. My $40000 figure is an average. Perhaps skewed a bit by overseas adoptions, but I do know other folks who have adopted 'domestically' and it was 10s of thousands of dollars all said and done.

    edit: I just tried to look it up and three different sources made three different claims: $0-$40,000, $8,000-$40,000, and $15,000-$30,000... so some grains of salt are required I spose. Last time I looked it was ~$20,000-$200,000 (prolly overseas) averaging at $40,000.

    So wtf knows I guess...
     
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