President Obama Accuses GOP of Helping ISIS by ‘Attacking’ Refugees

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which would help explain that special ring Obama wears.It's like a gold
    wedding band with some Arabic inscription. Even before Obama was married
    while President of the Harvard Law Review,his Harvard Review colleagues
    kidded him about that strange ring he persisted in wearing.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or mores like Sunni Wahhabist vs. The World !
     
  3. yardmeat

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    He's completely right. ISIS has stated that one of their goals is to eliminate the grayzone and make sure that Muslim immigrants are increasingly unwelcome in the West. There are a few members of the GOP that aren't falling for it, but most of them are jumping right on board.
     
  4. Steady Pie

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    Are you being serious? Wait... am I being serious? I don't even know anymore, someone help me!
     
  5. bwk

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    Lol! More twisting and dodging of the message I see. The U.S. code is nothing more than a wide brush to include religion. Meaning, for those who love to twist and dodge, "radicalized religion", is what is taken into account. The code is not meant to attack or scrutinize any one religion. It is meant to take into account radicalization.

    And so, Obama was right in his message, and you twisted the meaning of the law. No surprises there! Carry on!
     
  6. bwk

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    I love how folks like you like to say it is so, when it isn't, without dissecting any reasons why? The continuation of Obama doesn't explain a thing, and just sets you up for your own weak argument. And since you and others can't explain that truth, let me explain why. Because it was a problem Bush created, that quite frankly does not give any options for a happy ending. It's sort of like watching a man fall over a cliff who you were responsible for protecting, and half way down, that responsibility gets passed off onto someone else. And with that responsibility comes immediate failure. The only thing Obama can do is pick up the dead body. And that is what Obama inherited.
    You see, you're doing it again. Your whole paragraph was to blame Obama and company, yet, you gave no rational explanations for your claims. Why? Because you can't. All you are doing is using partisan hate to spread a message that has no message.
    :roflol: Doing it again! Now it goes to Obamacare! You make all these claims once again, and you have backed up your rhetoric with absolutely nothing. If the numbers are fudged, prove they are fudged. Explain in detail why a war started by Bush based on lies, is Obama's fault? I'll be waiting.
     
  7. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While the idea of more than 4,000 trained ISIS fighters infiltrated into America or Canada makes Progressive Liberals warm and fuzzy.
    Then again the Alawites(Shia) may be the second largest Islamic sect in Syria while the Sunni's are predominately the sect living there; The only way to stop the spread of terrorism is to stop it where it lives. It's like an infection. Do you isolate it at the source or allow it to spread to the healthy tissue?
     
  8. Steady Pie

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    There have never, nor will there ever be Shi'ite recruits of ISIS. It would be like a protestant joining a Catholic crusade - it just doesn't happen.
     
  9. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Islamic State Operative Reports '..We Have More Than 4,000 ...
    https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.co...-4000-covert-isis-fighters-already-in-europe/
    Sep 06, 2015 · Islamic State Operative Reports ‘..The Syrian operative claimed more than 4,000 covert ISIS gunmen had been smuggled into western nations – hidden amongst innocent refugees. The ISIS smuggler, revealed the ongoing clandestine operation is a complete success.tive-reports-we-have-more-than-4000-covert-isis-fighters-already-in-europe/

    According to the above more than 4,000 in already infiltrated into Europe and more coming to America. We've already seen what the Obama "robust" vetting has done on the Southern borders of our country.
     
  10. Wehrwolfen

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    I haven't said any different. I'm just pointing to the fact that spokesmen for ISIS have told us that there are already more than 4,000 ISIS trained fighters infiltrated into Europe and more to come. I go with Ben Franklin's adage, "An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure".

    Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of ...
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees
    AN OPERATIVE working for Islamic State has revealed the ... more than 4,000 covert ISIS gunmen ... ten trained ISIS rebels infiltrate Europe under ...
     
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    You really believe this? I'm not sure about the credibility of someones blog who doesn't have 18 dollars to register their own domain name through wordpress.
    And even then I wouldn't believe these assertions given the fact that it's not going to happen.
     
  12. Zorro

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    No. The word "radicalize" isn't in the law that controls this. The word "religion" is.
    No. He was completely off base, he misstated the position of his opponents and misstated current US law. What else was there for him to blow, those were really the only two things under discussion.
     
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    Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of ...
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees
    ... more than 4,000 covert ISIS ... fighters who want to go and visit their families. "Others just go to Europe to be ready." IG. The Islamic State group has ...
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    Refugee Crisis: ISIS Fighters In Europe? Islamic State ...
    http://www.ibtimes.com/refugee-cris...state-extremists-exploit-refugee-flow-2085787
    Video embedded · It is in that tide of desperate refugees that more ISIS fighters have been ... an ISIS operative who claimed 4,000 militants have quietly infiltrated Europe, ...
     
  14. bwk

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    Wow, what is it about common logic and comprehension some folks never grasp? If the word "religion" was the only parameter used in the code, you do realize no Muslims would ever enter this country right?

    Sorry, it is your mistaken comprehension of the law. Again, if "religion" were the only measure for scrutiny, no Muslims would be here. Nice try!
     
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    Express is a tabloid and you should really check the correction at the bottom of the international business times article. You're looking foolish right now.
     
  16. Professor Peabody

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    It appears so. Unfortunately Obama was helping ISIS with the Obama/Clinton gun running operation out of Benghazi.
     
  17. Zorro

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    It's not and never was claimed to be. It is however, as a fact of American Law, part of the evaluation, not something that is "UnAmerican" as claimed by the Idiot In Chief.
     
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    If attacks happen just months after he leaves office it will be freakishly similar to 9/11 wouldn't it? And if Republican is in office, it will be even more convenient. And after years of blaming every problem he has on his "inheritance", I'll just bet he'll claim no responsibility for anything that happens the day after he leaves office and strives to become the head of the UN and moves to another country.....maybe=)
     
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    It is a part of the evaluation you have no understanding of, and Obama does. That is the big difference here. Like I said, along with the part you failed to address, if "religion' was the only parameter used, no Muslims would enter. In the mean time, while you use the words of Obama to take it out of context, we all know what Obama is really saying. Portraying the statement as meaning something else, was just dishonest. We get perfectly what Obama is saying, and we get perfectly how you are trying to hijack that message.
     
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    What Obama is saying, that you already well knew, that there should be no religious test. In other words, no one particular religion should determine entry. "It isn't who we are", and he is spot on. And the law doesn't imply that either, even though that is the picture you want to paint. Nice try, but you exposed yourself yet again for being untruthful and dishonest.
     
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    Exactly. So when Obama claimed that an evaluation that considers religion was "UnAmerican" he was pretty talking out of his donkey. Does he ever consider investigating what he is talking about before he makes a donkey out of himself, in public?
    You are arguing a counter-factual, you can shape a counter factual to meet whatever criteria you like. It is only bounded by your imagination. I see no reason to join you on your flight of fancy.
    Our refugee policy isn't based on Obama's whims. We have laws, we write them down, we refer back to them. This is news to Obama? Does he think his moods are "law'? Gee, this guy has to be the dumbest man to ever occupy the office. Has he no grasp on reality? We are a nation of laws. These laws are written down. He can quickly pull them up and review them before he hails off in ignorance of them.

    I didn't make him say a bunch of things that were mind numbingly stupid and ignorant. He is a grown man. He is President of the United States. If he can't say something decent and intelligent, he can always just shut the hell up.

    I have you the federal codes, you are welcome to compare them to his comments. For him to badmouth others who were correctly representing the law, while he clearly never reviewed it before speaking, well the guy is a very vocal ignoramus. That this is simply difficult for his followers that want to see him do better.

    I understand that is very difficult for you. I wish for your sake, that Obama wouldn't publicly make such a donkey out of himself. You deserve better. You are loyal, committed, vocal, consistent and he owes you the courtesy of reviewing laws before he spouts off about them and makes a complete fool of himself. Quite frankly, he is lucky to have you and he doesn't deserve you.
     
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    Come on Zorro, you fully know that Obama only follows the Laws of the U.S. when he likes. All other laws need not apply. Obama's Fundamental Transformation of America preclude using all the federal laws only those he picks and choses.
     
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    Obama is an idiot.
     
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    Lol! We all know the strategy now. Cut out my sentence to hijack the message. You're doing the same thing with me as you did with Obama. That is the dishonesty. It is part of the evaluation you have no understanding of, and Obama does. Obama understands the language of the law, you do not. If the law just meant "religion" then no Muslims would enter. But keep cutting out my sentences. After a while your messaging won't make any sense.

    Of course you aren't going to join. Because you can't. "Religion" used in the law is one word. You are using it one way, the law uses it another. Again, that is why Obama is spot on in his statements about being unamerican.

    No, it's news to you, because you interpreting the law one way and taking what Obama says out of context. More dishonesty!
    No, the moods he leaves to the haters who dishonestly take what he says out of context.
    I implore you to do the same. Your dishonesty is most revealing.

    You see what I mean. Those who throw stones, can always be expected to expose their dishonesty.

    Sorry, but you better get yourself back up there and read that law again. You are the one making a fool of yourself taking the law you posted out of context.

    You took the law out of context, and Obama was right.
     
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    I think that ISIS believes that if they are going to try to hit the US, they have to do it before Obama leaves because it is so obvious how weak he is and how he would probably do nothing. They can't take the chance to wait and a Republican wins.
     

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