President Trump has made 1,628 false or misleading claims over 298 days

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Cigar, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, sure. Nothing has been done, enrollments are up, but hey, libs can dream.
     
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    Ya, his followers/worshippers/supporters
     
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    Trump is so unstable Congress is pushing for Legislation to prevent Trump from using Nuclear Weapons.......
     
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    Can you explain what Obama did, to enhance or better the markets? Because it's not even something a president can do. Lifting the debt ceiling as they see fit, raising or lowering interest rates as they see fit, printing and inflating money into the system, going further into debt (spending money we don't have), is not a economic remedy. And in turn will only result in a far more harmful economic collapse.
     
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    It's unprecedented, but the only reasonable solution to reduce the risk that this nutjob brings to the world.
     
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    Trump or any president on their own accord, cannot "push the button", it requires multiple keys and or people. If that was the case, Obama would of done pushed it.
     
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    I don't recall Obama trying to take credit for the market's value. Trump does this on a regular basis.
    So what difference will it make if the current administration drives us further into debt? Because you know that is what's happening.
     
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    I understand ATM, the 401k are flush and quite juicy ;) If you're worried about fluctuation, now would be the time cash out, right ;)
     
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    So tell us, who has increased the debt more in their first term, Bush or Donny? If you were to be honest with yourself you would come to grips with the fact that no one is ever going to add to the debt Obatard did! In fact The Obatard did such a grand job that his contribution continues to add almost half a trillion a year just in interest alone ;)
     
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    I guess The WaPo was just to busy being in collusion with the DNC to have been keeping track of all of President Obama's false and misleading claims and there were some real whoppers.
     
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    I'm smart enough to know only fools try to time the market.
    The president doesn't set the budget or appropriate funds, Congress does that. You're great with calling people names, but appear to lack a fundamental understanding of how the U.S. government works. From now on I'll give your opinions the same consideration I'd give a middle schooler or an immature high schooler.
     
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    And I'll do likewise ;)
     
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    I see that you cherry pick much of your data - like Obamacare being "stable for the foreseeable future". When was that CBO quote made? 2015 or 2106? Trump cutting out the subsidies to Obamacare have pretty much spelled an end to that obscene disaster. By the way, I'd believe the Washington Post before I'd believe the CBO.

    I see that you state "Trump also repeatedly takes credit for events or business decisions that happened before he took the oath of office" Are you arguing that a static market for years under Obama suddenly bloomed the period after Trump was elected? I don't think so!

    I agree that Trump does toot his own horn a lot - but it could be because the fake news media won't point out any of Trumps successes such as a 3% GDP, Consumer Confidence at a 12 year high, Dow Jones over 23,000 points, renegotiated trade treaties, Americas growing influence throughout the world and many more accomplishments.

    I think people with Trump derangement syndrome will go to almost any length to support their erroneous belief that Trump isn't quite up to their high intellectual standards as Trump schools them on it what it takes to lead a country into a future where America is Great Again
     
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    Yes, it happens every year, every president, or administration. Money is specifically manipulated for the benefit of a select few. And the majority sit back and let it happen, it's rather disturbing. They just print money as they please, raise the debt ceiling as they please, raise and lower interest rates as they please, bail out companies and banks with the labor of their citizens, as they please. And people wonder why they are struggling to make ends meet. Again, very disturbing, because the majority can shut it down and begin a new era, as they please. Yet they not only refuse, they actually believe they need these people to lead them.
     
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    Source??????????????????
     
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    The President doesn't make the budget and deficit spending. The Congress does.

    The President has two choices - veto the budget and shut down the government or negotiate with Congress and accept the bloated, pork heavy budget they send him.

    Of course, the media would have a field day condemning Trump for shutting down the government and killing senior citizens.
     
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    Yes, I was explaining to him that no matter who the president is, this is done with the money. In a previous post you will see I explained that the banking cartels own the president and most of the American leaders. As the "Don" (Godfather) would say, "Ill make them an offer they can't refuse".
     
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    "In general I don't care who the president is because they don't have a direct impact on my life."

    Actually, elections do matter.

    The last Republican President we had started a war in the wrong country and bungled it.

    That had a substantial impact on the US, in many ways, not the least of which included a doubling of the national debt.

    That same president ignored all the warning signs regarding the real estate bubble and the fallacy of reckless financial deregulation.

    The last President we had is responsible for the fact that you no longer have to worry about being denied health insurance over a pre existing condition, or worry about whether you have enough insurance to cover you in a severe emergency or a chronic episode.
     
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    It doesn't matter what the budget is because it isn't binding.
     
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    It's always binding, especially when the owner wants his money back. In this case other nations. Are you saying we can owe hundreds of trillions in debt, and just keep stacking it up, because those we owe, will never ask for it back?

    I guess I'm a little ignorant on the matter, I don't know what you mean by, "it isn't binding". When you go in debt to anybody, sooner or later, they want it back. Is that not "binding"?
     
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    The last president was just fine with what Bush did, republicans and democrats alike all voted in favor of the war. The president doesn't go to war on his own, are you kidding me? They are all on the same team after the same agenda, while putting on a front for the ignorant American people.

    Clinton started the destruction of the middle east, and every president afterwards has only added to it. I'm a republican, but I don't hold republicans guiltless because of that. Bush and all of our government are lying about 9/11. They put on this front, to keep people ignorant of the truth. And as you can see today, neither republican or democrat citizens know the truth, nor do they care of the truth. They only care about their political party specifically for reasons that pertain to themselves. Americans love not the truth, rather they love themselves.
     
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    Remember when Trump said he would eliminate the debt in 8 years? This proposed tax plan is going to increase it. He claimed to be different, but we all knew he was the worst liar of them all.
     
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    That's the same thing Obama said. And spent more money than all president's combined. I think the problem with Americans today, is they love their political party, like a football fan loves his team. They hold them on a pedestal, and act as if they can do no wrong. All the while pointing out what they feel the opposition does wrong. Back and forth non-stop bitching. Meanwhile their world or reality continues to decline, and they just can't seem to see what the problem is.

    Most average American citizens are 100 times more honest than any government official. Perhaps republican and democrat American citizens can agree on that. If so, there's a start.
     

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