President Trump touts 'fantastic job' in Puerto Rico even though Hurricane Maria death toll increase

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  1. jay runner

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    It seems like Trump issued an executive order to belay the Jones Act during the emergency. I don't know if he did it soon enough.
     
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    Thank you.. You are a breath of fresh air.
     
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    not taking responsibility is one thing, self praising himself on the effort is right out of grammar school playground boasts. he acts and talks like a child.
     
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    Quote him self praising. So is that a yes or no that you agree with the MSNBC commentator that the President has a responsibility for those deaths. If so what and how?
     
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    Puerto Ricans who live in a self governing territory do not pay income tax to the federal government so no they don't deserve the same response as citizens who live in states that do but nevertheless we taxpayers that do pay federal income taxes have sent billions in cash and assets. PR is responsible for it's power system and power generating and the condition that grid and generating power was in, yet we have sent billions in cash and assets to help rebuild it while having to put up with the local governments ineptitude if not outright theft.

    The President doesn't run PR, the Federal government doesn't run PR.
     
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    You mean the Jones Act that President Trump waived in order to speed up the recovery? :roflol:

    Your knowledge on this subject is very poor and coupled with a lack of honesty and intellectual thinking, it really doesn't help your cause. The real issue is in Puerto Rico with the people of Puerto Rico fixing their infrastructure. The Jones act has no bearing on this anymore.

    Goods entering Puerto Rico were piling up at the ports, and the island’s damaged infrastructure is to blame. Fuel shortages, damaged roads and debris were preventing truckers from showing up to work and from moving supplies around. They have all they need to fix their infrastructure, they just need to get to work and fix it.
     
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    He waived the Jones Act for less than ten days.. The Jones Act adds 30% to everything shipped to Puerto Rico. Its cheaper to import fuel from other Non-American islands and that is still far more expensive that they pay in Texas, Louisiana and Florida... or anywhere in the hurricane prone Gulf states.

    The antiquated Jones Act has been a severe handicap for PR for a hundred years.
     
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    The Commonwealth government has its own tax laws and Puerto Ricans are also required to pay most US federal taxes, with the major exception being that most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax.

    In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury
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    Taxation in Puerto Rico - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico
     
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    ....and Trump waived it to get the supplies into port faster which actually works against your narrative here. The issue is not the Jones Act at this point but the Puerto Rican people and their leaders getting to work to fix their island. Trump did great to get them what they needed, it's not his job to go in and rebuild it for them.
     
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    He waived the JonesAct for 10 days... Do you get that? The Feds helped rebuild after Hugo, Katrina, Sandy, Harvey.. Do you consider Puerto Ricans second class citizens?

    They pay taxes.

    The Commonwealth government has its own tax laws and Puerto Ricans are also required to pay most US federal taxes, with the major exception being that most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax. In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury
    United States Department of the Treasury
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    The Department of the Treasury is an executive department and the treasury of the United States federal government. Established by an Act of Congress in 1789 to manage government revenue, the Treasury prints all paper currency and mints all coins in circulation through the Bureau of Engraving and Prin…

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    Taxation in Puerto Rico - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico
     
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    it is in the article, we did a fantastic job. i dont agree he his responsible for the deaths, but i certainly dont think he did a good job in the recovery effort.
     
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    they are usa citizens, they deserve rescue like anyone else. truly pathetic stating they dont because of taxes.
     
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    Yea, apparently you don't. Try and follow along. The problem is not ships and supplies reaching Puerto Rico, the issue is the infrastructure that needs to be rebuilt on the island of Puerto Rico. The people of Puerto Rico and their leaders need to roll up their sleeves and get to work to rebuild the infrastructure on the island.

    In other words, the issue is not the Jones Act. It has nothing to do with actually rebuilding the island itself, at this point. Waiving the Jones Act for 10 days was sufficient to get the necessary supplies to the island.

    Do you get it yet? Why don't you actually do a little a research and gain some knowledge on the subject instead just blathering nonsense?
     
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    The Commonwealth government has its own tax laws and Puerto Ricans are also required to pay most US federal taxes, with the major exception being that most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax. In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury
    United States Department of the Treasury
     
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    The Jones act doesn't stop Puerto Rico from buy goods from other nations. They can buy fuel or any other thing from any country they want, but is a good is shipped from a US port to another it must be shipped by a primarily US company. And the Jones act doesn't effect Puerto Rico only, it is every US port to any other US post.
     
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    That's correct, but in terms of Puerto Rico it drives prices up.
     
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    Mr. Trump cries and cried about "unfair competition" against other countries, yet Trump forces a up to 40% "tariff" against the people of Puerto Rico, EVEN AFTER A HURRICANE!

    And if PR had even a billion of the $3 BILLION EACH YEAR of their OWN money, they would have new grid and high speed rail in the whole area!

    What has happened to Trump's ending of wasteful regulations and charges? He PERSONALLY demanded the return of those charges! Oh, wait, he sent some paper towels by Trump Air Express, hand delivered by Trump himself!

    And here are these power-brokers who so desperately need to suck in the money that that even give PR a full month of break from the huge money they extort during a catastrophe. They actually a huge extra bonus for the extra hurricane funds that these shipping taxes add!

    Here is the true picture - these are the people who take almost a half of every dollar of the hurricane funds that should go to Puerto Rico to grow like the mainland!

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