Pro-Abortion Extremism in the U.S.

A fetus becomes a legal person at birth.

IF it was deemed a person before birth then the woman would still have the right to kill it as NO one is forced to use their body to sustain the life of another PERSON nor should they be.

Then you don't have to worry about the US having enough people...

 

Another thought: Please show the law, decree, mandate that says woman have an obligation to populate the earth.

Hint: There isn't one, they have NO obligation to reproduce, none.

 

Why would you expect me to defend such a ludicrous idea?

 

Why?

It is not as if we are running out of people
Do you honestly think that the majority of abortions occur at a stage where this might even remotely be a viable option?

 

Is your solution to kill all these small helpless human? Is that compassionate?

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/26...-supporters-defenses-killing-disabled-people/

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Another thought: Please show the law, decree, mandate that says woman have an obligation to populate the earth.

Hint: There isn't one, they have NO obligation to reproduce, none.

You seem concerned about abortion as it affects population...


...and you still are really good at ignoring those INCONVENIENT posts

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Oh, BTW, WHO is going to pay the BILLIONS it takes to grow all these fetuses in artificial wombs??

No, I didn't say that....but I know you have to twist others words since you have no facts to rely on


BTW, taking away women's rights to their own bodies and forcing them to gestate is NOT compassionate...so don't YOU lecture on the subject

 

Maybe next pro-abortion nuts will try to strip the elderly and the handicapped of their rights.

Actually you do!

The pro-abortion fanatics should avert their eyes. They will be enraged by the facts. Studies show that many women are coerced into abortion.
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https://conservativetribune.com/new-study-reveals-reason-behind-most-abortions/

http://clinicquotes.com/statistics-on-coerced-abortions/

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001581

The pro-abortion fanatics love when women are coerced into abortion. These fanatics love to control women's bodies.

Can you provide evidence for your assertion?

Pro- abortion fanatics support the abortion industry which grinds up so many women and their unborn babies.

http://www.prolife.com/DEADWMN.html

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/09/deaths-at-planned-parenthood-show-no-concern-for-women/

Fortunately so many more people than you believe women and unborn babies are human beings and have as much rights as you do.

 

So you don't want to kill them? There's hope for you yet!

That's just what the abortion movement supports. I provided evidence (which will be ignored by closed-minded abortion-lovers) that many women are coerced into abortion.

 

Your thinking is outdated.

https://overpopulationisamyth.com/

 

There are NO "Pro-Abortion nuts" here so can the insults and lies.

It is the Anti-Choicers who want to strip women of their rights.

I have NEVER seen a Pro-Choicer advocating for rights to taken away.


As to the fetus, as you've been told, fetuses never had rights so no one could "strip them of their rights" as you contend since they never had any...

Try logic for a change...

Forcing women to have an abortion is wrong and the police should have been called..


But you see nothing wrong with "coercing" women into gestation and child birth....you see nothing wrong with forcing women if it's what YOU want them to do.....there's a name for that illness.

What load of crap ... Seems like you're losing it


So you don't think these whackjob Anti-Choicers want to control women's bodies..?? Really?

You sure seem confused on who wants to control women.....and it is NOT those who want them to have a choice....

....and off the deep end goes another fanatic extremist....LOL!!!

Again , you sure are confused about who wants to take away women's rights.



Explain how FORCING women to gestate and give birth is NOT taking away their rights.

YOU CAN'T AND YOU WON"T

 

NO, unlike YOU I want women to decide for themselves whether to kill their fetus or not....

...and you mistakenly think that forcing them to do what YOU want isn't taking away their rights....you seem Very Confused


YOU want to coerce women into having babies...



LOL! rage on, it's people like you who keep abortion legal

 

So let me get this straight.

You believe someone's thinking is outdated if they think there are too many people in the world?

You think there are "pro-abortion extremists" and "abortion lovers"?

You think others "coerce" women into having abortions?

You think people are forcing women to kill their children?

Is that a reasonable summary of your views?

 

You are jumping into this without any context as to what I was talking about and I have no intention of spending the time to redirect you.

I replied to them twice I believe. Is there something specific about them you feel I did not address? In any case, you seem more concerned with either arguing or with abortion than you do with increasing the options available to women and saving the lives of persons who have brain activity and beating hearts and did not ask to be put in situations as they are in. I offered the solution to the problem but you are more concerned with debating the same old things that have been debated over and over again and has never gone anywhere. I do not see talking to you as ever going anywhere different than it has between any choice/life advocate so I do not intend to continue this particular line of discussion with you.

 

It is the later abortions that are more arguably the process of ending the life of a 'person' as it is later and later that the brain and brain activity develops which is required for a 'person' or consciousness to exist. I am not a pro-lifer who believes that life begins at conception.

 

And how often out of all abortions are they performed?

We are talking less tha 1% of all qbortions occur after 20 weeks and the vast majority of those are for foetal abnormality incompatible with life

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/18/late-term-abortion-experience-donald-trump

 

3rd term abortions are only legal here in America in order to save the life and/or health of the woman concerned.

No doctor would risk their medical license to perform an unnecessary 3rd term abortion.

3rd term abortions occur when there is a serious problem and it is usually someone who actually wanted to have a child but now finds themselves in a difficult and unfortunate situation.

But those who are OPPOSED to women's rights want to ban these life saving abortions and have women, many of whom are already mothers of small children, die needlessly just because these anti-abortion fanatics don't have a clue about what is actually involved and why it is essential for the life and/or health of the women who have to undergo these medical procedures.

Not once have I encountered any anti-abortionist who actually comprehends both the need and the rarity that apply to 3rd term abortions.

Willful ignorance and emotive drivel are their stock in trade because actually educating themselves regarding the facts would nullify their anti-abortion stance.

 

Why is 1% important? A life is a life. How many lives must be taken for it to be wrong?

In any case, the goal is that it should eventually be able to cover up to 7 or 8 week old fetus as that is when they are scientifically a person. Later abortions are just the start.

 

What I fail to comprehend is why rarity is important to you. If a country had only 1 murder in 10 years should that murderer go free because murder is such a rarity?

 

Thank you for proving my point that those who are adamantly OPPOSED to women's RIGHTS flatly refuse to educate themselves regarding the pertinent FACTS regarding 3rd term abortions.

And it is worth noting that while these devious anti-abortionists weep crocodile tears about a fetus they never give a crap about the lives all of the women who will die needlessly because they were denied a life saving 3rd term abortion.

The term hypocrisy springs to mind!

 

What is outdated is the idea that making a claim followed by some internet link constitutes proof of claim.

This is as lame as it gets and proof of nothing. You did not even bother to mention one thing in the link that you think is of merit - which is against forum rules never mind being against any semblance of decorum.

 

I haven't said anything about 'prolifer' extremists so I am not sure how I made your point.
Most people would support abortion if the mothers life is in danger. Rape as well but personally I would say that the rapist should be charged for murder if the child is a person when removed thereby killing the child. In this case the mother did not consent to the pregnancy or to take the risk of a pregnancy. In cases outside of rape she is consenting to the risk.

Research into synthetic wombs will help resolve many of the gray decisions.

 

That 1% are mostly wanted pregnancies gone horribly wrong

You did not read the link or the point that these are ABNORMAL pregnancies
As in no developed brain

 

Suuuuuure

Are you going to put 1,000,000 kidney bean sized foetuses into those artificial wombs? So who pays?

 

Please provide a credible source for that allegation.