Probability Alien Life Watching Us Cannot be Determined

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh just go away - I get tired of your doublespeak and euphemistic word play.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...you and Usafan have the same M.O. of running away or ignoring when the going gets tough.

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not running away, it's just that I recognise nonsensical drivel when I read it, and would rather not engage. And it ain't good for my BP. :evileye: [​IMG]
     
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    I watched the Hidden Secrets of Humanity Series

    They say the Earth is 18 billion years old (this is more be;ieveable than 6000)
    We are on the 4th globe of earth in the 4th sphere of some hindu bullcrap

    No one will ever compete with total global history sales of the koran or the bible..
     
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  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So they say the Earth is older than the Sun, or is the Sun also older than the Universe?
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You brought up Judith as a slam. However when bring material to the Curry corner, it contains work done by many scientists. Much of what i show is work by many other scientists.

    My point about Neil applies to her as well. Merely because one is a scientist and says something, is not a fact until proven.
     
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    Nothing I posted was debunked by anything serious.
     
  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The Hobbit" has not been debunked either....for much the same reason.
     
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    Of course the fossil evidence earlier then 550 million years maybe be non existent but the science now is the same that existed then. When that happens science uses what is known and projects using math and physics, . That’s no where near as good as the evidence of fossils...But, we’re also at a stage using particle accelerators to actually recreate keys we don’t have direct evidence for.
    Bottom line, if Professor Schopf has real evidence to refute these projections, he would have changed the conclusions of UCLA where he works....
     
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    Fact remains 'we' don't know of any visits or communications from aliens...
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not a book review. Professor Schopf has real evidence. Read his book. It will even turn out to be enjoyable.
     
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    There seems to be less fossil evidence past 550 million years. That was my point. No more, no less.
     
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    We Are Made of Stardust
    https://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/we-are-made-of-stardust/

     
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    When it comes down to these basic elements of life, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.,......yup.
     
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    or a conspiracy theorist and a cow pie.
     
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    I think us being watched is possible. Now possible doesn't mean they are or aren't. It is within the realm of possibility. It is also very possible we have been visited in the past. So far, unprovable. Although certain people have made rational cases that we were.

    Now I may win the lottery tomorrow, that is if I bought a ticket. That is possible, highly unlikely and on the probability scale, almost zero. I would on my probability scale put aliens watching us and perhaps visited us in the past much higher than my winning the lottery.
     
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    How flat? Are you asking me if I can make a flat surface on sandstone using ancient tools? Sure.... you don't think this possible?

    Is it okay if I use these?:

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    The museum will probably not let me borrow them. :(
     
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    Well, except you got the ages of the rocks wrong, the weight of the rocks wrong, the composition of the rocks wrong.... you kept insisting they did this all "so easily", which requires no debunk... another poster posted links you can follow to see ways of doing this using ancient tools and methods...

    What more does it take to debunk what you posted? What then, specifically, would do the trick? I ask honestly.
     
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    Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
     
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    Lol, I don't argue that the prehistoric people had instruments. I'm asking how did they measure the surface to be so flat?

    And how the hell did they did that hole so perfectly precise is what I'm asking:

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    If you say they carved it with a chisel or a screwdriver, you clearly never built anything with your own hands other than a sandwich. Not aiming to insult you but just stating the obvious but for some people not that obvious so that's why I'm stating that. You never built anything. Because you have no know-how, it's super clear.

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    That is precision laser cutting. Period.
     
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    And about Puma Punku, some of the stones were GRANITE. Granite is a composite, made of feldspar and quartz, with a hardness of 6 and 7 respectively. This makes granite a fairly tough material. You can't just cut granite with a chisel or an axe, lol. You need diamond cutting tools. Where would you find that knowledge, and diamonds in Peru, and apply that knowledge and make diamond instruments. And then precision cut the stones like this.

    You said something very unintelligible. I don't hate you, and you might be a smart person, but sometimes you say very tiresome things!

    You can cut granite that is in tile format with a normal circular saw using a dry-cut stone blade that is either carbide or diamond tipped. And they cut these stones a thousand years ago.

    Many of the joints are so precise that not even a razor blade will fit between the stones.
     
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    Also...

    Puma Punku is located at an altitude of 12,800 feet, which means it is located WAY above the natural tree line, this means that no trees grew in that area. The traditional archaeological view is that wooden rollers were used to transport these vast blocks of stone but that is a very retarded statement by archaeologists.
     
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    They didn't....they chipped blocks of sandstone off, chiseled at them, then "polished" them until flat. They likely had standards to check the flatness, like rods or other blocks.
    By making a tool ....and turning it so it made a circular shape. How would you do it? And by what measure are these tubes "perfect"? Their sides are rough, the shapes are not perfect cylinders...

    You guys keep adding embellishments, like "perfectly straight" (no). "perfect hole", "they did it so easily"....
     
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    Tool by what material? And how did they drill so deep into the stone? Your version is exhaling air.

    The blocks were so precisely cut as to suggest the possibility of prefabrication and mass production, technologies far in advance of the Tiwanaku's Inca successors hundreds of years later.

    In assembling the walls of Pumapunku, each stone was finely cut to interlock with the surrounding stones. The blocks were fit together like a puzzle, forming load-bearing joints without the use of mortar. The precision with which these angles have been used to create flush joints is indicative of a highly sophisticated knowledge of stone-cutting and a thorough understanding of descriptive geometry.
     
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