Proof that Capitalism+ religion trumps Atheism + communism / socialism every time~

The most obvious oversight was lack of mention of Great Britain. Followed by France and her empire, then Spain and her decline. The US did not begin to enter the world stage in many meaningful way until the late 1890's with its challenge and defeat of the Spanish Empire. The 20th Century belongs to the US, and why many historians refer to it as the American century

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There is no room for artistic license when discussing history. The fact is either known, unknown or disputed. Everything beyond that is simple jingoism.

 

There are people out there who know that over three quarters of America’s (read as the USA WOZ) population claim Christianity and even more believe in ‘God’. Since the USA is a (representative) democratic republic the citizens beliefs especially religious beliefs just might influence the decisions of those officials that make laws and foreign policy in a good way, well good by my reckoning. Eh..or perhaps AMEN brother!!!..or my fellow member is more in keeping the spirit of this reply ?

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God nor religion never have any official say in politics. The founding fathers were smart enough to realize any nation that respects or condemn any religion is bound to fail. I repeat, America is not a religious nation, Christian or otherwise.

 

I know you are wrong, not in that religion is great or anything. I don't care. But that past civilizations were built on capitalism. Capitalism is an entirely modern phenomenon, and no society earlier than at the most the 17th century was capitalist in any meaningful way.

 

"Proof that Capitalism+ religion trumps Atheism + communism / socialism every time~"

religious freedom plus the best of all systems trumps any "single" system every time!



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Well I think the European experience prompted them to go down that road. Ever since the reformation Europe had been tearing itself apart using religion as a trigger to cause all sorts of mayhem

 

total bs, when Christians tried to get "Jesus" added to the founding documents, they were slapped down by the great majority


http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

""Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination." "

 

It looks like the OP missed the total years of America's superiority by a decade or two, but the overriding message of the OP (which I agree with) is that America has been the most powerful nation on earth since its inception as a sovereign nation. Can you or will you argue that salient point?

 

A couple of decades.....try over a 100 years. But riddle me this, how did the greatest nation in the world get invaded?

 

Americans are only religious when it suits them.

 

They also only hate the French when they're not winning the war of independence for them

 

Yep, they're mostly Americans.

 

Disagree totally. Up until the disollution, comparatively recently, of the British Empire, our tiny 800x100 mile island was the most powerful and influential nation on earth, both economically and militarily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

 

By recently, are you going back as far as WWI, or to be more precise, are you saying England was both economically and miltarily more powerful and influential than America before, during and after WWII where your tiny island would have been a heap of rubble had it not been for our entrance into the war?

 

I think capitalism has been sapping the soul out of humanity for some time now. I read a book recently that's causing a bit of a buzz in the UK which hints there could be an alternative, it's about a revolutionary, visionary, humanitarian, working-class genius politician and has some great characters in it. I've just found out that it's free to download on Kindle until Monday so i recommend you check it out, called '2082: The Chronicles Of Hope'

 

Yes, around the time of WW1. Oh, and don't start with that idiotic 'we saved your asses' rubbish; I've heard it all before. You helped, yes, but you had no choice but to join in WW2 after Japan attacked and Germany declared war on America. There was no altruism involved, and you didn't come galloping gallantly to our rescue like the 7th Cavalry. Russia contributed infinitely more to saving Europe from Nazism, and sacrified tens of millions of soldiers compared with the rest of the Allied effort combined. Had it not been for Pearl Harbour and the increasing German attacks on your shipping, it's very likely you would have pursued your isolationist policy.

 

May I debunk your first point? What is the most religious country in the world to date? North Korea. What area do most of the least religious countries come from? Scandinavia.

 

Stalin wanted to expand.

 

I'm not talking about who saved the rest of Europe, I'm talking about how America saved your tiny island from the constant bombing by the krauts...especially on London. That one point of history alone should give you a clue as to which nation was more powerful at that time. But I'll keep it in mind of just how powerful an ally you are and the support we'll need or expect from you if ever America gets attacked on a large scale.

 

This is utter nonsense. the RAF had already defeated the Luftwaffe over Britain in the Summer of 1940, as a result of which Hitler abandoned any plans for invading Britain.. The London Blitz had already happened and failed, and Goering's command of strategy was sorely lacking and, as a result of the Battle of Britain, the RAF retained aerial superiority in Britain, over the Luftwaffe, for the rest of the war. This, you will have noted, was before America entered the war.