Protests erupt over racism at Evergreen State College

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

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    They'll be going to the same college I went to unless I start seeing or hearing about crap like this there. What is a degree worth today anyways? Most of them are worth about as much as the race card. My kids are still young so hopefully this BS is changed.
     
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    Just more proof that they're retards without a clue. Soros is sitting back laughing.
     
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    I'm dyslexic to a degree and she wouldn't be stumbling on words the way she was if that was the case. She's an idiot and well representative of the uneducated masses that are attending colleges and holding such protests these days.

    I have considered that she was a product of Obama's public education and his administration's lack of monitoring schools that are getting federal funding from the No Child Left Behind Act. The teachers got lazy and gave the failing students the grades needed for passing so the federal funds would keep rolling in and this is all it's done. So because of the greed and lack of motivation by many of today's teachers, that girl and other people just like her will be ignorant for the rest of their lives and won't even be aware of it. It's sad.
     
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    Now days you can't avoid politics in college because of all the professors giving their political opinions during class. I've been lucky so far and haven't had any radical professors. There's a few in my university but I've managed to avoid them. They're all to the left obviously. I'm to the left on some issues but I still don't want my professors telling me how I'm supposed to feel about our president.
     
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    Yes, you're right. I guess I just wrote the original response too quickly.

    I should have been much more specific. I was talking about the plantation owners and others who BOUGHT and kept the slaves in this country. That is the only group I was concerned with. Only....the buyers of slaves.

    If those people had chosen NOT to buy and keep slaves (in this country), it is my belief that many of the racial problems America has had to deal with, would not have existed. Even today, we are dealing with problems which have their roots in those earliest bad decisions (to buy and keep slaves in America). We wouldn't even be talking about the topic of this thread, if those first BUYERS of slaves in America had not purchased their slaves. We are all still paying in countless ways, for those awful early decisions.

    Thirty6BelowZero, I appreciate that you took the time, and made the effort, to understand what I was actually trying to say. Hopefully, this post will explain it all, and be the last of it. Gad, when I wrote the OP it seemed to be just a quick easy to understand post. Never thought a post could go off the rails as this one has.
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    I've been trying, without success, to explain that my interest in this whole thing has NOTHING to do with the people who were selling the slaves, no matter who they were or where they were located. That was not something I was trying to address. And, yes, I understand that slave merchants were selling the slaves, and that, in Africa, Africans were selling other Africans into slavery. But, as I said, my original intent was NOT to bring up any of the sellers.
     
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    well I can say that a Chem Engineering Degree is pretty valuable, my kid is proof of that.

    Too many of that generation just "go" to college because they were told that's what you do, all that accomplishes is postponing the time until you have to decide on a career.

    Push them for Straight A's and nothing less, I was fortunate, I didn't have to push but if they develop the attitude that a B+ is fine, eventually they will think a c+ is fine.
     
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    agree. But I still blame the parent and child for contributory negligence.

    even if the system is lazy there is no excuse for the student to fall into the trap and just accept minimum standards. This is the obvious result and once those individuals enter the job market they will find that life has a few slaps in the face ready for them.

    People in charge of interviews will spot the weak links pretty quickly (I know I do) and dismiss them early and often, a lifetime of poverty awaits the weak links.
     
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    I think this video is an ad for why most kids should NOT go to college, because it diminishes it all for the rest of us;)
     
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    Nothing like creating divisiveness and greater racism than trying to solve it. No, much easier to play the perpetual victim and never put any demands upon oneself.

    Consider this: You are an American, you have most basic needs to live a decent life, you are healthy, you are given opportunity to greatly succeed if you choose to and apply yourself. In other words, you are better off than 94% of the world's population. Be grateful! Instead of telling us forever how horrible you have it and how much this nation is keeping you from being happy.
     
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    Refreshing attitude and principles, hold tight to them, if you can!
     
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    Actually thousands of immigrants brought their slaves with them to America!

     
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    Its the climate out here. I consider myself somewhat in the middle but I lean to the left. That's not acceptable to some. Fundamentalist progressives are every bit as rigid as fundy right wingers. It's not about sheep anymore. It's what group of pigeons are you going to follow so you can sh*t on the other "side". Peace love and togetherness never lasts very long.
     
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    Here's more:

    https://nypost.com/2017/05/31/college-melts-down-over-plan-for-white-people-free-day-on-campus/


    College melts down over plan for white people-free day on campus

    By Jackie Salo May 31, 2017 | 9:07pm | Updated


    After protesters at a Washington state college called for a day without white people, a biology professor says he no longer feels safe on campus — and student activists complain they’re being vilified by conservative media.


    Evergreen State College students said racial tensions have been simmering in recent weeks, but reached a boiling point when a faculty member disagreed with their plans to protest what they say is institutional racism at the Olympia campus, according to The Olympian.


    Students were particularly incensed by an email that surfaced on Twitter on May 25 between Professor Bret Weinstein and Rashida Love, director of First Peoples Multicultural Advising Services. Weinstein, who is white, allegedly condemned the “Day of Absence” event that asked white people to leave campus for the day.


    He called the day “an act of oppression in and of itself” and said he would visit campus in spite of the demonstration, according to USA Today.


    “If there was interest in a public presentation and discussion of race through a scientific/revolutionary lens, I would be quite willing to organize such an event,” Weinstein wrote.


    In a YouTube video posted on May 27, a group of students is heard calling for Weinstein to be fired. Demonstrations have involved as many as 200 students pouring into classrooms and the school president’s office.


    “Hey-hey, ho-ho, these racist teachers have got to go,” the students chanted in the video.


    Weinstein told news station KING that he was advised last week not to go to campus for safety reasons.


    “I have been told by the Chief of Police it’s not safe for me to be on campus,” Weinstein told KING. The station notes that Weinstein has spoken out in this year against increasing the role race plays in the admissions process.


    Multiple protest videos have been picked up by conservative media outlets, but the students disagree with the coverage, calling the footage “edited.”


    “We demand that the video created for Day of Absence and Day of Presence that was stolen by white supremacists and edited to expose and ridicule the students and staff be taken down by the administration by this Friday,” students said in a statement to the College Fix.
     
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    Joe Rogan is currently talking to Bert Weinstein on YouTube. Some of the stuff is mind blowing.

    Black students stalking the car park looking for him.

    College president not allowed out of a meeting to go to the toilet without minders. Basically, a hostage situation.

    The chairs and the food were for black people only, white people stand and go hungry (no I'm not making this up, listen to the video).

    A black student needed an adaptor, so a message was sent out asking for a white person to go and get one.

    All this happening in a regular college in the USA. And as Joe Rogan points out, non-white people will soon be the minority. Not hard to guess where all this is going, right?
     
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    Don't you people have an ounce of compassion?

    If you did, you would rush to start a collection to buy plane tickets for these incredibly oppressed protestors. They shouldn't have to look at this ugly country or its privileged inhabitants ever again. The protestors should be helped to find other countries where they can throw off their chains and be free at last. And they should never again have to deal with any insult or criticism of any kind. They'll certainly choose a country filled with people who look, and act, like themselves — so that, finally, life will be Heaven on Earth, forever.

    In exchange for all this help, of course, we should have a contract making clear there will be no right of return, ever.
     
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    The future of black America is not bright if this is the best they have to offer
     
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    This is what 50 of Prof Weinstein's fellow teachers have written and signed:

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32946/

     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-campus-mob-came-for-meand-you-professor-could-be-next-1496187482

    The Campus Mob Came for Me—and You, Professor, Could Be Next
    Whites were asked to leave for a ‘Day of Absence.’ I objected. Then 50 yelling students crashed my class.
    The Evergreen State College.
    The Evergreen State College. PHOTO: THE EVERGREEN STATE COLLEGE
    By Bret Weinstein
    May 30, 2017 7:38 p.m. ET
    1473 COMMENTS
    Olympia, Wash.

    I was not expecting to hold my biology class in a public park last week. But then the chief of our college police department told me she could not protect me on campus. Protestors were searching cars for an unspecified individual—likely me—and her officers had been told to stand down, against her judgment, by the college president.

    Racially charged, anarchic protests have engulfed Evergreen State College, a small, public liberal-arts institution where I have taught since 2003. In a widely disseminated video of the first recent protest on May 23, an angry mob of about 50 students disrupted my class, called me a racist, and demanded that I resign. My “racist” offense? I had challenged coercive segregation by race. Specifically, I had objected to a planned “Day of Absence” in which white people were asked to leave campus on April 12.
    Day of Absence is a tradition at Evergreen. In previous years students and faculty of color organized a day on which they met off campus—a symbolic act based on the Douglas Turner Ward play in which all the black residents of a Southern town fail to show up one morning. This year, however, the formula was reversed. “White students, staff and faculty will be invited to leave the campus for the day’s activities,” the student newspaper reported, adding that the decision was reached after people of color “voiced concern over feeling as if they are unwelcome on campus, following the 2016 election.”

    In March I objected in an email to all staff and faculty. “There is a huge difference between a group or coalition deciding to voluntarily absent themselves from a shared space in order to highlight their vital and under-appreciated roles . . . and a group or coalition encouraging another group to go away,” I wrote. “On a college campus, one’s right to speak—or to be—must never be based on skin color.”

    My email was published by the student newspaper, and Day of Absence came and went almost without incident. The protest of my class emerged seemingly out of the blue more than a month later. Evergreen has slipped into madness. You don’t need the news to tell you that—the protesters’ own videos will do. But those clips reveal neither the path that led to this psychosis, nor the cautionary nature of the tale for other campuses.

    Evergreen is arguably the most radical college in the country—and while it does lean far to the left in a political sense, it is the school’s pedagogical structure to which I refer. Rather than placing students in many separate classes, most of our curriculum is integrated into full-time programs that may run the entire academic year. This structure allows students and professors to come to know each other very well, such that Evergreen can deliver a deep, personally tailored education that would be impossible elsewhere. When it works well, it is unlike anything else. Last week’s breakdown of institutional order is far from an indictment of our founder’s wisdom.

    Rather, the protests resulted from a tension that has existed throughout the entire American academy for decades: The button-down empirical and deductive fields, including all the hard sciences, have lived side by side with “critical theory,” postmodernism and its perception-based relatives. Since the creation in 1960s and ’70s of novel, justice-oriented fields, these incompatible worldviews have repelled one another. The faculty from these opposing perspectives, like blue and red voters, rarely mix in any context where reality might have to be discussed. For decades, the uneasy separation held, with the factions enduring an unhappy marriage for the good of the (college) kids.


    Things began to change at Evergreen in 2015, when the school hired a new president, George Bridges. His vision as an administrator involved reducing professorial autonomy, increasing the size of his administration, and breaking apart Evergreen’s full-time programs. But the faculty, which plays a central role in the college’s governance, would never have agreed to these changes. So Mr. Bridges tampered with the delicate balance between the sciences and humanities by, in effect, arming the postmoderns.

    The particular mechanism was arcane, but it involved an Equity Council established in 2016. The council advanced a plan that few seem to have read, even now—but that faculty were nonetheless told we must accept without discussion. It would shift the college “from a diversity agenda” to an “equity agenda” by, among other things, requiring an “equity justification” for every faculty hire.

    The plan and the way it is being forced on the college are both deeply authoritarian, and the attempt to mandate equality of outcome is unwise in the extreme. Equality of outcome is a discredited concept, failing on both logical and historical grounds, as anyone knows who has studied the misery of the 20th century. It wouldn’t have withstood 20 minutes of reasoned discussion.

    This presented traditional independent academic minds with a choice: Accept the plan and let the intellectual descendants of Critical Race Theory dictate the bounds of permissible thought to the sciences and the rest of the college, or insist on discussing the plan’s shortcomings and be branded as racists. Most of my colleagues chose the former, and the protesters are in the process of articulating the terms. I dissented and ended up teaching in the park.

    Mr. Weinstein is a biology professor at the Evergreen State College.

    Appeared in the May 31, 2017, print edition.
     
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    OMG! Autistic shrieking.
     
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    Those videos are truly terrifying, reminds me of something out of the stuff I've read about the Cultural Revolution and as Tucker Carlson said, "Phnom Penh Cambodia in the 70s". But, it is very important to note those things were thousands of times worse, with people actually getting kidnapped, tortured and/or killed. Here it's just a guy getting yelled at. Yet the themes of mass hive-mind and angry mobs are essentially the same, large groups of people ganging up on someone and persecuting them; screaming how terrible and messed up he is while offering no opportunity to dialogue, or in Weinstein's words, dialectic. Of course they aren't calling actually calling for his head, most of these people would probably cringe in discomfort at the mere sight of a firearm or other instruments of injury or death. But like said, the angry mob thing creates a slippery slope, which as history tells us, could lead to something more militant(or already has, it can be argued, with the rise of groups such as Antifa).

    I go to a public state college, and yeah, it isn't that bad. We did have pretty loud protests the day after Trump got elected, and our building directors often hosted events/gatherings which were sometimes politically motivated and left-leaning(I would always get emails about them). I went to one at the behest of some friends, but it wasn't over the top crazy socialist or sensationalized, at least I think. Also, an additional thing, I was visiting someone at another public college during one of their "club days", basically where all the clubs and fraternities/sororities etc. come out and have tables with presenters so people can join them. I noticed a table which had a banner which said "REPUBLICAN CLUB - WE'RE HERE TOO", which I thought was kind of funny. No one was vigorously harassing or protesting them though, like the whole internet narrative pushes.

    So, of course, not every public college is "basically Stalinist Russia", as Evergreen is an super extreme example(along with what happened at Mizzou and...Yale, I think?). But, the fact that pretty much every future leader will have to go through college with these ideological trials, is something that cannot be ignored.
     
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    Here's more:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/06/n...the-loony-race-protesters-at-evergreen-state/

    Now Even Socialists Are Bashing The Loony Race Protesters At Evergreen State
    Photo of Eric Owens
    ERIC OWENS
    Education Editor
    11:31 AM 06/06/2017

    The World Socialist Web Site, a hard-left news outlet which promotes “revolutionary opposition to the capitalist market system” has published a scathing editorial denouncing the student protesters at Evergreen State College as race-baiting loons who fail address any actual issues affecting “working class people of all races and genders.”

    Over the past couple weeks, the Evergreen State campus in Olympia, Washington has been the site of a stream of high-profile protests led largely by radical black students.

    The protesters have centered much of their fury on Bret Weinstein, a white biology professor who criticized an organized event “inviting” every white student, professor and administrator to leave campus for a day.

    The complete absence of all white people on campus would acknowledge “the value of having POC [people of color] in higher education,” according to Rashida Love, one of the principal organizers of the “Day of Absence” for white people.


    “Professor Weinstein is not a right-wing professor,” the World Socialist Web Site editorial observes in its editorial, which is entitled “Evergreen College professor harassed, slandered as racist for opposing ‘exclusion day’ on campus.”

    Weinstein supported socialist Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election, the website notes.

    “There is nothing ‘left’ or progressive in the actions of the students protesting Weinstein,” the socialist website says. “Their racialist outlook expresses the interests of privileged sections of the upper middle class, and complements the racism of the far-right.”

    The World Socialist Web Site also notes that Evergreen State has not been the site of any racist incidents. The protesters’ “claim that the campus is seething with racial tensions is not supported by any concrete evidence.”

    The student protesters “have nothing to say about the burden of student debt, food insecurity, poverty and unemployment,” the socialist website criticizes. (RELATED: Socialist Venezuela Sucks So Bad It Has Run Out Of BEER)

    The sum total of the Evergreen State protest amounts to an expression of identity politics for the sake of identity politics.

    “The protests at Evergreen are part of a broader trend,” the World Socialist Web Site charges. “Racialist politics is systematically promoted by the media and the political establishment, particularly the Democratic Party, as part of an effort to divide workers of different races against each other, while subordinating the working class to the competition of factions of the upper middle class for access to privilege and power.”

    The socialist website notes that the Evergreen State protests fit into a pattern of race-based events and protests at many college campuses in recent years including the University of Missouri, Yale University, Amherst College and Harvard University.

    Follow Eric on Twitter. Like Eric on Facebook. Send story tips to erico@dailycaller.com.
     
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    That's no mystery. Getting a student loan is even easier than applying for a credit card because they have people whose job is to bumrush prospective applicants through the process. That illiterate girl shouldn't even be allowed to enter a high school, let alone college. The problem is that because it's possible for her to get a plethora of student loans, universities will accept her. She represents money on the hoof.

    The sickness you see in that video (and many others) is spread through colleges adopting a social justice curriculum. Universities are being transformed into political propaganda platforms, rather than actual universities. They're quite open about that, as well, saying that social justice is an appropriate subject to interject in any subject. You could be studying quantum physics, but fail the class if you don't recognize your white privilege in the appropriate manner by playing musical desks, and letting the black students sit down in chairs, but because of the color of your skin, you have to voluntarily lose and sit on the floor until all the whites are sitting on the floor, and the blacks are sitting in chairs.

    Of course, all this does is generate a lot of hostility, resentment, and racial violence. White students are taught that they are bad because of the color of their skin and the inherent privilege that gives them in our racist society, and blacks are taught that they are owed something by society because they are being systematically disenfranchised by society due to their race, gender, sexual orientation, blah blah blah. Then when they get out in the real world and learn that it doesn't work like that, they feel as if violence against whites is not only justified, but mandatory. If they don't fight against racist whites, then society will never have justice for blacks.

    If you want your jaw dropped, read this.
    https://quantumprogress.wordpress.c...cial-justice-in-the-physics-classroom-part-1/

    Amazingly enough, this teacher justifies this to his physics students because racism affects "why things happen as they do". Why are there so few black physicists? Because... racism.
     
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    What I don't understand is why. I have (non-white) friends who were refugees to this country, and couldn't speak the language. Their kids hadn't yet mastered it before the end of high school, but both they and their parents worked hard to improve despite the obvious challenges. The kids then EARNED their way into college academically. As in, graduating high school in the top tier in both language and sciences. No special entry or AA cr@p, they competed with everyone else, on an even footing. Medicine and Law respectively.

    I absolutely blame the parents. But even then, these kids must surely look at Asian (as in, NOT white) Ivy League students and ask themselves why they can't do the same .. they know that all it takes is hard work and commitment, not magic pixie dust and white skin.
     
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