Psychlogical effects of racially diverse facial appearances

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  1. Anders Hoveland

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    I have been arguing that there are significant racial differences, biologically, physically, mentally, and behaviorally. But the one thing that cannot be argued about is that different races have different facial appearances.

    Yes, different faces within the same ethnicity have differences, but not nearly to the degree between different races. The type of differences between two people of the same ethnicity are of a different quality than the differences between different racial groups.

    I believe racial (and to a lesser degree ethnic) integration and interracial mixing will cause very long lasting, permanent problems in society.

    Physical and facial appearances have very significant psychological effects. "Diversity" and racial mixing have the potential to negetively affect society in many unanticipated ways. How will diversity and racial mixing affect the levels of physical and sexual attraction in society? Will friendships and significant relationships become weaker or less fullfilling?

    If all the people in the world where only a single mixed-race group, would the men still find their women as attractive? Many people are ignoring the potential future effects of forced racial integration and race-mixing.

    Every day when we go out to do our normal routine there exists the possiblity of meeting a girlfriend [or boyfriend] at school, at work, or in public. Many police officers and fire fighers, for example, are able to meet women in the course of going out into public doing their jobs. Yes, there are dating sites and special places to go to meet potential dating partners, but statistically most people meet their future spouses at school or at work.

    Imagine for a moment that ALL the people you encountered at work or school were the same gender as you- that there would be no possibility of romance. Would that not make you much less hopeful?

    We all know that we are much more likely to be attracted to, and be compatible with, a dating partner from our same race/ethnicity.

    Would it more difficult to find a romantic partner if someone was a minority where they lived? Will there be more single people who cannot find girlfriends/boyfriends because of the increasing racial diversity?

    Are you single and a minority where you live? Do you think the fact that most other girls your same age where you live are from a different race has prevented you from finding love?

    Now you might not be a minority, and most of the people around you might be the same race or ethnicity as you. But that could change in the future. Will your descendants have to deal with this problem that you do not now have to deal with?

    And what about gay/lesbian people?
    They already have a much more difficult time finding someone. This is likely the main cause of their much higher suicide rates. Now add on the fact that they are a racial minority, and it would become much more difficult to find anyone they are interested in. How is increasing racial diversity going to affect the suicide rates of gay/lesbians?

    I am proposing that even if the attitudes about race changed entirely, and even if other racial differences did not exist, increasing the racial diversity could still be severely detrimental to society because of facial appearance differences. No matter how "silly" this concept seems, or what logical beliefs or conscious opinions you may hold, facial appearances could still potentially have profound subconscious effects.

    This effect is not to be taken lightly. Many families are willing to go far out of their way and pay much more for a house in a neighborhood with mostly other people who look like them. Physical appearance of coworkers can often even be a factor in wear an individual prefers to work. If your grandchildren looked "different" it could effect your natural feelings toward them, even if you did not have a problem with your children marrying outside their race, and even if you believed that you should not feel different about anyone because they are a different race. The type of love between two people of different races may also tend to be different from couples of the same race. Often, interracial relationships are more based on sexual desire, or just friendship, than real love. This could lead to less healthy marriages and families, causing children to recieve less nurture.

    Naturally then we should look at regions that are already racially diverse, and children that are of mixed race.


    Effects of Racial Integration and Diversity on Society

    All of the cities that have high levels of racial diversity have serious social problems. It is to be wondered how much psychologically caused factors have indirectly contributed to this.

    When it comes to differences between countries, social cohesion plays a major role. Broadly speaking, countries that are more ethnically or racially homogenous are more comfortable with the state seeking to mitigate inequality by transfering some of the resources from the richer to poorer people frough the fiscal system.
    Michael Jonas wrote about ethnic diversity, "Birds of different feathers may sometimes flock together, but they are also less likely to look out for one another."

    Ethologist Frank Salter wrote:
    "Relatively homogeneous societies invest more in public goods, indicating a higher level of public altruism. For example, the degree of ethnic homogeneity correlates with the government's share of gross domestic product as well as the average wealth of citizens. Case studies of the United States...find that multi-ethnic societies are less charitable and less able to cooperate to develop public infrastructure..... A recent multi-city study of municipal spending on public goods in the United States found that ethnically or racially diverse cities spend a smaller portion of their budgets and less per capita on public services than do the more homogenous cities."
    Salter, Frank, On Genetic Interests, pg.146.



    Potential Psychlogical and Social Effects on Racially Mixed Individuals

    An analysis of more than 3 million respondents revealed the average pay was $15.74 per hour for people of mixed race, $17.39 for black people and $22.04 for white people. This was despite the fact that 18 per cent of mixed-race people had college degrees, compared with 11 per cent of black people and 28 per cent of white people.
    "Can the 'one-drop rule' tell us anything about racial discrimination? New evidence from the multiple race question on the 2000 Census", Robert W. Fairlie
    University of California, Santa Cruz


    A study by J. Richard Udry’s National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which sampled a random, nationally representative school-based sample of U.S. adolescents in grades 7 through 12, during 1994-1995, showed an marked increase in behavioral problems and depression amongst mixed-race children. Mixed race children were also more likely to have sleeping problems. Mixed white children were 58 percent more likely to have sleep problems than non-mixed individuals, mixed blacks 63 percent, and mixed asians 72 percent.

    Interracial children are much more likely to have identity problems and trouble fitting in.
     
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    Got a link?

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  3. Think for myself

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    Halle Berry.

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    I think biracial is pretty beautiful, at least physically.
     
  4. Anders Hoveland

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    I can only say that I STRONGLY prefer my own race — not just race but a particular ethnicity! If all the peopleof my race dissappeared, there is a good chance I might become asexual! (either that or develop severe psychological problems and some sort of extreme unhealthy fetish)

    Most people prefer romantic partners within their own race.

    The fact that there may exist some acceptablely attractive mixed race women does not mean that mixed race women are not statistically less attractive to either race.
     
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    If all the people of your race disappeared, wouldn't that include you too?

    Perhaps, but the times are changing, are they not?

    Maybe, maybe not. I don't speak for anyone other than myself, and I think that beauty transcends melanin content.
     
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    Please show me where people are required to have children with someone of a different race.

    Until then you just hate that people make decisions that you don't agree with.
     
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    Wrong. Now start again. You might want to start doing a little actual research instead of just "beleiving" things.
     
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    Just as the government is allowed to limit individual decisions to protect endangered species, so to should the government be allowed to limit individual decisions to protect endangered ethnicities. Environmentalists are so concerned with protecting species diversity within natural habitats. What about protecting human ethnic diversity?

    Another idea would be to only allow interracial sex between individuals that are incapable of having children. If a man really wants to sleep with another race, he could get a vasectomy. If the interracial couple wants children, the woman could be impregnated by a man of her same race, or the man could find a surrogate mother of his same race to have the baby. So the interracial couple could have two children, each from their parents respective races. This way it would not be unfair to the child to be born as mixed-race. How many of you reading this would actually prefer to be born racially mixed if you could choose? To some people it would be similar to being born as mixed gender, a hermaphrodite.

    Racial segregation could be promoted to help prevent interracial mixing, without taking away the right of people to sleep with whatever race they want.
     
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    Wow........ you should get sterilised.
     
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    Ummmm...I think that shipped sailed long ago.
     
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    I wonder if this is what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf?
     
  12. Anders Hoveland

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    I believe there may be biological/brain differences that have an effect on what features individuals of a certain race tend to find attractive. Biological effects clearly make men more attracted to the faces of women, and women more attracted to men, so this could also be true with race.
     
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    Muhammed Ali spoke out against interracial mixing, and he was a very much admired figure in the black community. Obviously racial physical appearance was a significant issue for him.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVpfcq4pV5U"]Muhammad Ali speaks against racial mixing - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Is he your hero?
     
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    No. We're programmed to reproduce, it doesn't matter with who. We pick up things along the way to pick out who we like. It's nothing that has a biolgoical orgin. The reason you don't like other people of a differnt skin color is because you're a racist. Being a racist isn't genetic.
     
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    My husband is white, I am black, but often get mistaken for being ''mixed''. I have light eyes, light skin, smaller lips, and a smaller nose. All of the features others assosciate with being ''black''.

    I have often been told that I look like Rhianna, and other light skinned attractive actresses, such as Thandie Newton. I have had guys from all races ''check me out'', and try to hit on me. I say this not to brag, but to bust your little bubble of ''only white is desirable'', and nobody else wants anything other than white''. You speak for yourself and your other racist minority ''brothers''. Our children are also gorgeous, and we have often been told our daughter could be a model. My teen aged son has to beat the girls off with a stick. Not only are they beautiful on the outside but the inside as well.

    Maybe you should work on your ''inside'' so by the time you meet that special someone, your outside will reflect your inside. Ugly shows from the inside out!!
     
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    I will also add,(b/c I know you will go there) that I have friends who are dark skinned and married to milky white men as well, and don't have any problems. Sure you may look at them and think to yourself, ''I wouldn't have matched them up as a couple'', but that could be the same thought when you see a woman who is taller than her man.

    There's a song with the lyrics, don't judge your love by your lover. Sometimes people end up marrying the opposite of their ''preference''. I watched a TLC show where a man married a quadriplegic. She could move her arms but that was it. He met her that way! They had a baby together and seem to be pretty happy. I'm sure as a young man that's not what he envisioned his wife. I'd rather spend a day with a guy like that, than any other ''hottest celebrity'' out there. It's all about substance my friend. I'll say a prayer for you in church today;)
     
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    Wow, I'm shocked. I just knew a seperatist/racist would chime in and call me some names:shh:
     
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    I think we're mixing several issues. It's not JUST appearance, but commonality. Catholics from all around the nation of all races can work together in building a community -- because they all share a basic social structure and similar beliefs. OTOH Arab Christians and Arab Muslims don't get along -- yet they all have similar looks. In other words, social cohesion can be formed by having a strong similar identity -- yet not merely by looking alike and being from the same nation. I think it's a culture thing, not a race thing.
     
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    Races don't trust each other.

    I lived in Miami for 4 years and the races DID NOT mix. Most Hispanics hate Africans, those who did not hate them are at least suspicious and avoid them.

    Blacks lived in their crime infested ghetto areas (Liberty City, Opa-locka, Little Haiti, North Miami, Miami Gardens, etc.)

    White Hispanics lived everywhere, even the nicest parts (Coral Gables, Westchester, Kendall, Pinecrest, Hialeah, Tamiami, Miami Beach, etc.)

    White "Anglos", being only 15%-20% of Miami-Dade County, concentrate in a select few areas, usually only around the white Hispanics, and almost always in the upper middle income areas.

    Brown, black and mulatto Hispanics (Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, Panamanians, Mexicans etc.) lived in the margins - Sweetwater, Flagler St., Little Havana, Allapattah, along the Miami River, etc. These groups are the relative newcomers and are looked down upon by the white Cubans who moved to Miami long ago.


    Bottom line, if our country is supposed to look like Miami in a couple decades, we are in a lot of trouble.





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    I only went to Miami once, and I was shocked at how disgusting that city is. The areas I saw in that city would put quite a few So Cal ghettos to shame. Compton looks nicer than areas of Miami.

    Whites will eventually have to move to areas that blacks and Mexicans don't usually like, such as really cold mountainous environments. The problem, though, is that Mexicans and blacks will follow the whites wherever they go, since white areas will almost always be nicer and have more opportunities for income.
     
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    No; bigoted, ignorant 'whites' like you that I find an INCREDIBLE embarrassment to be even seen with can go and live in the mountains...PLEASE.

    You are getting fewer and fewer in number anyway.

    Sane, intelligent, humans like the rest of us will continue on.

    And in a few generations...the melting pot will be well on it's way.
     
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    Sane, intelligent, humans like the rest of us will continue on? LMFAO!

    What is sane or intellegent of a brain dead group of people who choose to live in a multicultural, anti American tradition, racist infested, criminally prone, dangerously unstable enviornment, welfare leeches, graffiti strewn, gang bangers and a urine/feces aroma permeating any and all large urban areas of ghetto lure? Pretty safe on those subways as well, woudn't you say? :no:
     
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    Where does this take place. As far as I know from experience, there is absolutely no forced integration nor forced race-mixing.


    I know that in the cities of the US, the different groups do not often mix. The ones of the various groups that do mix are in the extreme minority, while the vast majority stay with kind. Integration is not as much of a problem as you think that ti is being that the overwhelming majority of people tend to not mix with others on a willful basis.

    In all, your post is based on sound logic though the intent may not be. I for one am not an integrationists and I never have been. I have never "dated" outside of my own group nor do I plan on it. See, I am satisfied with being who I am and would not trade who I am for being another.
     
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    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/03/interracial-divorce-the-matrix-of-sex-race/

    Hispanic is not race.
     

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