Puerto rico finnaly approved of being our 51 state does anyone have any objections?

I have a daughter living at Kauai and step kids also living there. I enjoy all of the islands. But there are far more non natives there today the natives have little chance of recovering their own islands. What a shame we foisted on those islands.

 

Participation or turnout was too low.

 

Yes, I do.

What specifically do they want to join for? We are already in a bad shape economically and I cannot see how this would help in literally any way whatsoever.

Furthermore, I have been going to PR two or three times per year for work and can say with utmost certainty, the average PR 'likes' an American about equal to the typical Mexican which is not much. Both countries (and other Latin American countries as well) interact with Americans with a mix of anger/hate/respect/fear and the cultures are simply far too different.

If people were lining the streets talking about American morals and the American way of life that would be one thing, but from what I can see PR wants to do it for 100% monetary reasoning

Being so, I will do the same and there are literally ZERO monetary reasons to add PR as the 51 state.

So yes OP, I do have a problem with it, a big one.

No

 

So if you are in debt, you think taking on more debt is not a big deal?

This type of logic/reasoning is terrifying when you look at the national debt levels both of citizens and of government programs etc.

 

This is what I took in during my research as well and further pushed me to believe it is simply a money grab.

If the people of PR were so excited or desperate to become an American they would AT THE VERY LEAST vote on the damn issue....

The people do not care as a whole, this is entirely a money grab and not one that the United States of America can afford at this time.

 

This is nonsense. While it is true Latin Americans all over relate to unitedstatians with anger, hate, respect and fear, so do Asians, Africans and Europeans. Puerto Ricans are clearly Hispanics or Latinos, this is a western culture, they're predominantly Christian and share the same philosophical traditions, their histories are interrelated. Moreover, Hispanics are a substantial portion of the US population, so when you say "Americans" you really mean about 40% Hispanics.

 

PR is in definitely financial straights. Before I would even think about adding PR as the 51st state, they would have to have their financial house in order, perhaps even debt free.

 

Puerto Rico has a $123 billion deficit, about $70 billion is in outstanding bonds (pure debt) and the balance is pension obligations.

The US federal deficit specified above -does not include pension obligations.

 

You are arguing something that is completely off topic.

I do a lot of traveling and have met many people in Latin countries, CR, PR etc

I have personally noticed that people who are not geared for tourism or to be a part of that area of the economy (IE are an actual locals) they tend to definitely have a much different attitude towards Americans.

You can argue all day long if you would like as to why they do so and if it is justifiable, but it is 100% something that I have noticed whenever I travel to an aforementioned country.

This particular attitude makes me feel they do not want to be an American, they simply are doing it for fiscal reasons. That is something I am 100% against.

And no, I specifically said MEXICANS as in people living in Mexico.

You can take your liberal tirade wherever you would like but you are making yourself look silly by bringing up completely out of left field talking points to change the direction of the discussion to something you can be angry at.

 

Yeah, that would be my number 1 by far.

But as was mentioned earlier in this thread, we wanted PR to be a state for a long time and they said no. Kinda coincidental that all of the sudden they want to, when their economy is crap....

Next, AT BEST 12% of the total population voted to become a US state, AT BEST.

Last is my earier point, I do not think that PR or CR or Mexico or a lot of other Latin America countries WANT to be an American. Simply because you want to reap the benefits does not mean you should be an American nor does it mean I want you as one.

So far I see zero effort and that turnout makes it even worse.

 

A 23% turnout shows there isn't any rush of PR'ns wanting to become a state. Most likely the Governor just looking for a bailout.

 

The mainland broke them.

This is not a matter of them vs us. They are already part of the US. We've used them until they're just about used up. The mainland killed their agriculture and their manufacturing. The least we can do is try to make it up to them by giving them a chance and the tools to rebuild what we took.

 

PR is already IN the USA.

Your avi is interesting because if you go back and look, PR was really getting a let up when the tea party got into power in San Juan.

 

Is there another sovereign nation claiming Puerto Rico? The Spaniards want to give it a second go? News to me.

 

You could not be more wrong about them not making an effort.

BTW, just an aside, trump owns property in PR.

 

Where are a gonna put another star on the flag ?

 

That is a problem.

We should either merge the Dakotas or give North Dakota to Canada.

 

No it isn't. Only states are in the USA. PR is just a territory.

Huh?

 

No no no. PR is backwards, corrupt, poor, they lack ambition, and they want our money first and foremost. I lived there, and I say leave them where they are or even somehow push that island farther away from our mainland.

 

They were an industrializing people that Federal regulations pushed deep into poverty.

I'm surprised that Middle Americans don't feel a bond with the Puerto Ricans.

 

They need to fix their problems before they become a state. They need to earn statehood, not just become a state so we can bail them out.

 

Take any Latin American economy and force them to complete at first-world minimum wages and they will have problems. There was literally nothing they could have done, they're at the mercy of Federal regulations.

They will either default or just leave the island for the mainland.

 

That seems to be an argument that Puerto Rico can't be a state because they have a 3rd world economy.

 

Why? Make them a State and then repeal Federal minimum wage laws.

Done deal. Watch Puerto Rico turn into Singapore.

...okay maybe not Singapore, but it would still be pretty great.

 

We didn't "hold them off".

They rejected statehood until they entered bankruptcy.