Putin again denies Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election; Trump calls probe a ‘disaster for

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  1. mdrobster

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    wrong, facebook and youtube have taken steps to remove fake political ads, it was in the news.
     
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    this conspiracy matches the birther conspiracy. you guys make the 9/11 truthers seem sane.
     
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    Coats just state Russia meddled. When’s he getting fired?
     
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    Go read Mueller's indictment.
     
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    Oh yeah, for sure
     
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    See? Obama Save the Day. He stopped the Russians twice. That's why the election went so smoothly with no interference. That's why he said the election was clean pure and we better except the results of it.
     
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    How did the hacking of the DNC email sway or interfere with the election?
     
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    yeah right, obama is going to say, stop it, and all is well. kind of what trump supporters believe in the magical trump.
     
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    He tried. Has Trump tried?
     
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    No one's arguing that Obama should have done more. We have not learned about the extent of the hacking until more recently.
     
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    Why didn't Obama get Facebook to ban the Russians?
     
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    The mental gymnastics by Trump supporters in this thread are astounding.

    "The Russians have been proven to have, and continue to, so chaos and disorder in the US and Western democracies, and Trump seems hell bent on helping them, or not stopping them"

    *Insert logical disconnect*

    "Where was the last guy and why didn't he do anything?"

    Usually people ask about the compounding issues and why they occured After fixing the problem. Not as an Alternative to said fixing of the problem.

    But then you'd have to face the problem as it exists today and going forward.
     
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    What did he do to try? I thought he said the elections were unhackable.
     
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    I can see the RW headlines now

    "Obama admin interferes with private organization. It could happen to youuuuuuuu"
     
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    What should have Obama done?
     
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    Are you saying that Obama didn't stop the Russians from hacking the election because he was scared of what people like me would say about him?

    :roflol:
     
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    You're asserting that prior to 2009 Russia/Soviet Union never tried to influence elections here?
     
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    I’m more concerned about hacking the dnc analytic data and state voter data.
     
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    The russians were small potatoes and obama lnew it

    But when hillary shockenly lost they needed a cover story and the russians were available
     
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    I don't expect Putin or any other leader to admit to meddling. Do our presidents admit to our own meddling? Did we ever get an official admittance that we were spying on merkel, the leader of germany, an ally? It would be hard to deny it, but did obama ever admit it? Or did his admin just ignore it?

    Have our presidents ever admitted to things we found out our CIA has done, to other nations, their leaders? Getting most politicians to admit we have meddled in russian elections, covertly, is not something you should expect to see. And this is the reality that we live in folks.

    Has any gov't official ever admitted that we meddled in Ukraine, even after all can listen to the conversation Nuland had with the american ambassador to Ukraine? ha ha.

    I am not so naive as to think for a moment that russia does not meddle nor that we do not meddle. And from what greenwald says, in regards to this, we go much farther than phishing, to get access to a computer system, according to the NSA documents he has seen. And farther than using social media as russia is accused of doing. We are the experts in such meddling and can ever make it look like someone else did it, framing anyone that we wish to.

    I wish that my nation, the US did not meddle, so that we could show an honest, non hypocritical foundation in which to be upset over russia. And acknowledge the truth here, so not as to be deeply guilty of hypocrisy, which is just another form of lying and deceit.

    Not like we are setting good examples for the rest of the world, now is it? ha ha
     
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    Yes and yes.
     
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    They thought Putin and Russia was on Clinton's side.
     
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    Nothing meets that criteria.
     
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    Your side is pushing the phony trump-russia collusion and you accuse me of insane conspiracy theories?

    You got Chutzpah, I’ll say that for you
     
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    So since Trump has done nothing you consider him incompetant or a traitor?
     
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