Putin "Hillary Clinton is weak"

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  1. HailVictory

    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Personally I think that Putin has some dirt on Trump and that's why Trump says he likes Putin and Putin wants Trump in office. I think he also doesn't want to risk the orange nuke going off on Russia. So basically Putin is smart and trying to control the wild Donald along with the USA.
     
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    Perhaps Trump doesn't realize that Putin backs Iran and Assad which in turn supports Hezbollah and the al Houthis... Further, Putin is in direct opposition to the development of shale oil production in the US.
     
  3. cupAsoup

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    Instead of deflection, defend your position of preferring a foreign dictator.
     
  4. Seth Bullock

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    If you want a serious conversation, I'll give you one, conditionally. That condition is that you drop the BS of "preferring a foreign dictator".

    Let me ask you a question.

    Is it a prerequisite for the election of a U.S. president that that candidate must promise to oppose the Russians on every issue, every time, automatically and unequivocally, with no negotiation, now and forever?

    Yes or No.
     
  5. cupAsoup

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    No one said that.

    I will say YES, it is important that candidates NOT advocate for a foreign dictator to meddle in an election. Further, it's not ok, under any circumstances, for a presidential candidate to advocate for a passive cyber war against our government.
     
  6. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh. Now I see what you're talking about. I'm getting so used to Trump, I don't obsess over these statements he makes, nor do I connote things to them that shouldn't be connoted.
     
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    It's amazing the things that Trumpers will accept from Der Faker
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are being manipulated by the press of this country. They are loyal to Democrats.

    Democrats hate FOX since to them, FOX is not loyal to Democrats. But you don't hear Democrats trashing the rest of the major media. They realize the major media favors them. If not, the Democrats would trash a lot more of the press.

    Putins government could have hacked the DNC.

    But the DNC created those things that got hacked. Putin never created the crud in the DNC that caused DWS to resign only to get hired immediately by Hillary.

    If the RNC files got hacked, you would focus on the content of the files. You would never worry if Putin did it or France did it or England had.

    Blaming the Russians is a way to divert from the facts found in those files.

    If Hillary could blame republicans, she would

    But by trying to first blame the Russians they trying to falsely link him to the Russians, Hillary has taken the back door to blameing we republicas. We never wrote the stuff up that made Sanders and his followers purple in rage.

    Hey so Democrats can comprehend

    WE NEVER WROTE THOSE FILES. DEMOCRATS CREATED THOSE FILES.

    They got exposed so now the spin machine of the DNC and press is out to launder the dirty laundry.

    Nobody knows who hacked the files.

    Keep in mind the extreme long period of time they needed to assess Hillary's server. They sure took years to figure hers out.
    For the media to blame the Russians and not show the public any proof, NO PROOF AT ALL, smells the whole place up.

    Some of you Democrats get pouty and want proof of things Obama did wrong. But you seem to eat up this blaming the Russians yet you have yet to see any proof of any sort.

    Obama's government is the gang that can't shoot straight.
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hell, by backing Hillary your side tops our side by a mile.
     
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    That is one of biggest collections of disconnected sentences I have ever read in this forum. By your style, you make quite obvious your disdain for the educated elite who oppose Donald Trump. You could not make it more obvious that you are not a member of that group.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were Putin to endorse Hillary Clinton and even send her funds, I believe that would be just fine.

    First, this blame of Putin.

    We have yet to see any proof. We know of the hacking. But we hear talk. We see no evidence. We hear Democrats saying they have evidence. The same Democrats who despite having Hillary's server, never saw evidence for some years. It took them years to finally admit there was evidence on Hillary's server. Then they whitewashed Hillary.

    But now they claim to be able to blame Putin?

    That is so tragically amusing.

    This is nothing more than a DNC diversion to cast the light in other directions. The wanted to put a fast stop to the discussion of the contents of the DNC computer. They need to shout loudly to blame Putin.

    This does not need to be TOP SECRET

    WHERE IS THE PROOF PUTIN IS INVOLVED.

    Second, were he involved, how does that change the contents of what the DNC wrote up to the point the leader got fired?
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is so typical of Democrats.

    Rather than discuss the contents of the message, they lash out at the poster.

    I believe that most reading my messages do not see them as disjointed. That they actually comprehend the message.

    That offends you much more than you admit.
     
  13. Pycckia

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    You know what is also important? That presidential candidates not keep their email on private servers hoping to keep it secret from the American people but making it freely available to any hacker who decides to read them.

    Putin needs no invitation from Trump. He already got one from Hilary.
     
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    No, that wouldn't be fine. That's be a foreign totalitarian dictator meddling in an election. You may be fine with that, i'm not.
     
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    Is being hacked is the same as making them freely available? Has anyone who has ever had their information stolen made it freely available? Your ignorance on this is painful, yet not surprising.
     
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    You nailed it. The war mongers, so willing to send young, mostly poor americans to die, do it from their recliners, getting their best entertainment from watching the videos of people dying, in the safety of their homes.

    They like to strut around, chests poked out, talking so tough, but are not at risk to go and do the dying. I saw it during the Vietnam war, and it has never gone away. Always the same kind of people. The Vietnam vets that I see, with this kinda of attitude were the ones who never got close to those jungles full of Viet Cong and NVA. They were a cook at some navy base in places like Great Lakes. Most of the guys who survived that war, and came back to the Free World, are not so apt to be war mongers, strutting around, or sitting in recliners safe at home, with no threat of ever having to go. Or their kids going.

    All of this demonizing, which is a propaganda tactic, of Putin is done in order to enrich some elite. Read War is a Racket, by General Butler, a very highly decorated soldier long ago. Only then will you understand what is going on with these wars, and these threats of war. Educate yourself into what reality actually is. This same deal is going on with us making Putin some demon, some great threat, when the greatest threat are men in nice offices, who earn their income from the death of young americans in wars.
     
  17. Pycckia

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    People who do not safeguard their valuable information through gross negligence do make it freely available to thieves. Just like someone who leaves their keys in an unlocked car makes it freely available to thieves. There are actually laws about US classified information and how to safeguard it. Hillary ignored them for her political advantage.

    Hillary belongs in jail.
     
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    I served in the Army during peacetime in the mid-seventies. But my perspective is molded and sharpened from having had a son go to war. Iraq once, Afghanistan twice. Marines, infantry. Purple Heart. Almost died.

    From that experience I have learned that America doesn't have the heart to win a war. I'm not talking about the war fighters like my son. I'm talking about our traitor politicians and gutless, gullible, sheep-like people. I have learned that nobody's child should fight for this country unless the enemy is virtually on our shores because our traitor politicians will undercut and betray them in a heartbeat. In. A. Heartbeat! if it suits their political ambition.

    The courage and loyalty and sacrifice of our young people is not deserved by our people, or our despicable traitors that infest Washington, D.C.

    I ain't no dove. I just know what I know, and everything I just said is the God's truth as I see it.

    So ...

    Hillary Clinton will never get my vote. Screw her moronic wars, screw those political cowards and hypocrites, and I hope when she gives the order for our military to do something idiotic, the entire military just refuses. If the war is unnecessary and just stupid - like her wars all have been so far - I'd be perfectly happy for the Navy to just park their ships in Tahiti, the Air Force to fly to Cabo, the Army go on R&R in Hawaii, and the Marines can go occupy the local pubs and taverns of ... well ... anywhere they damn well want. Who's gonna stop them?

    I'm serious.

    This country doesn't deserve their blood. It is not worthy of it.

    My p-ssed off two cents ... :oldman:
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the difference between Obama and Putin other than Putin is not black?
     
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    Political advantage?

    WTF do you think you're talking about?

    If ANYTHING...she violated a rule that has no punishment attached to it...as did Powell before her

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    Did you seriously ask that stupid racist question?

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    Srcew her moronic wars?

    Which wars were "hers" that cost American lives?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That sums my feelings up as well. My time in the Army was also peaceful. We had only to fear the Soviets. I laugh when Putin is run down by Democrats. They either forgot or have no clue what the Soviets were like and their genuine danger.

    Russia today is not the Soviets.

    Our military has no respect for Obama. I don't believe he respects them. I can't see Hillary barking orders at Generals either.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every time I see anger directed at me, tawdry insults, demeaning posts directed at me, I know it will be one of a half dozen Democrat posters.
     
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    Russia today is not the Soviets
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    Do you have the slightest idea who Putin IS?
     
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    I certainly do.

    I wish you did.
     
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    So you think this dictator and former head of the KGB is a "good guy" huh?

    You don't care that he's trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union by force...
     

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