Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

What a disaster this mobilization and indiscriminate forced conception has been. Half of the men called up are medically unfit.

 

The only terrorists in Ukraine are the Russian invaders. So mr. Putin go and kill some Russian terrorists. PS. The Russian terrorists are easy to spot they have Z’s on there vehicles and their flag is white, blue, and white stripes.

 

Ukraine declared its independence in AUG 1991. A referendum for independence passed in Dec 1991.Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and met in DEC 91 and desolved the USSR and set the boundaries as they were when each of the 3 republics were republics of the USSR. They signed agreements that the boundaries will be just as they were when the USSR. was alive. Crimea was legally part of Ukraine at that time. Some more legal facts is that the Ukrainian SSR and the Belarus SSR where founding members of the UN.

 

I'm going by the date of the memoradum signing which was in 94
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

"The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three substantially identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The three memoranda were originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]"

 

The Budapest memorandum was signed when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons which were Ukraines after the 1991 independence vote and referendum. It said that the signatories would guarantee the soverenty of Ukraine and its borders which were previously established.

 

Ukraine lost it with the coup, when they denied the people in the East and South representation.

We did didn't when we? Wasn't that the reason for our Revolutionary War?

But if the governing body is illegal, then it's up to the people themselves.

The people in the 4 areas did ask for referendums to free themselves from an oppressive government, and other areas are asking for them as well. If you don't know that, then blame your media.

That's ridiculous considering Russia's size. Take a look at the map. Putin did what Stalin did in WWII and moved everything to the Urals. Washington's survival depends on one thing and that is having others do their warring and dying instead - thus our instigating in the Baltics, Georgia, Central Asian states, Middle East, etc., etc.

To be an American you have to believe in the rights given us by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution, as well as having some semblance of right and wrong. Sociopathia was frowned on by our highly devout Fathers.

One must also believe in our freedom of the press and to stop misusing it to serve themselves and their own foreign affiliated self serving interests, whether it's ethnic or financial.

Terrorists kill civilians in order to terrorize, thus the name and why Ukraine is by all accounts a terrorist nation.

 

1- No one and no section was desired representation. There was no coup. Most Ukrainians wanted to be part of the EU but Yanukovich at first made sound as if he was for the EU then he betrayed the people and went off to Moskva and behave like the Belarus traitor Lukashenko.. Fueled by young people the Ukrainian patriots made enough noise so Yanukovich ran to Russia. He quit on his own. There was never a coup.

2- You ask why did the American colonies revolt. It was about taxation, lack of representation, and the Crown was pushing to destroy freedom of religion. No. equivilencec with Ukraine.
3- The current Ukrainian government is absolutely legal.
4- No California cannot just become a country again even though they were for a very short time. Remember the US IVIL WAR? Southern yahoos who wanted to keep the Their “ peculiar institution” slavery going.
5- Invading countries cannot just call a referendum in a foreign country. That would like Audi Arabia calling for a referendum in Chechnya. Or Ukraine calling for a referendum in the Kuban
6- Hes terrorists kill citizens. Putin and his monsters kill citizens in Ukraine. They hit civilian targets kill children, women, old Babas. So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck. Russians at the direction of Putin has his terrorists in Ukraine killing civilians. So Putin and his gang are TERRORISTS.

Case closed…

 

The Russians in Donbass want to be part of Russia. And reckless and moronic war pigs Lindsay Graham, Petraeus, Keane, Blumenthal are putting even America at risk by playing their silly tough game with Putin. Lindsay has had a hard on for Putin ever since he came into power .All they care about is a regime change, straight from Bush/Obama years, in Russia. Libya turned into a disaster, and Putin stopped it in Syria. The war pigs are so unbelievable unaware of what they are doing, just like they were under Bush/Obama.

 

@PARTIZAN1 are you Polish (west ukrainian)?

 

How about the reality you were not being told by Nuland and company. Yanukovich had no intention of reneging on his promise. What he found out was that instead of losing some tens of billions - as the EU had told them, Ukraine would lose hundreds of billions of dollars since Russia was not going to continue all its beneficial trade deals they had with Ukraine. There was no way Putin was going to allow EU goods to go into Russia under the favorable deals they had given to Ukraine. When Putin said he was willing to discuss it with the EU they refused.

When Yanukovich asked the EU if they would loan them the money the EU said no and to go to the IMF. The IMF told him that he had to double the price of gas and lower the social services 70%. He knew he couldn't do that to the people or he would lose the next election, so he decided to hold off before joining the EU. In the meantime Ukraine needed 15 billion immediately and went everywhere to get a loan and was refused even by China.

As a last resort he went to Putin even though they were not on the best of terms and he loaned him the money from one of the Russian funds and to the chagrin of the Russian people who had it with Ukraine's ingratitude and corruption. The junta never repaid it back of course. Anyway this is all coming from my memory, so the exact numbers I mentioned might not be exactly accurate. I'm sure they're pretty close though.

As for the Ukrainians who wanted to be part of the EU. they did not speak Russian and were from Western Ukraine. They were protesting because they believed the promises and needed the money Nuland was giving them since they came from the poorest part of Ukraine. There was no way they could afford to spend so many weeks protesting at Maidan. Some of them when interviewed on TV, said they were from Poland and weren't even from Ukraine.

Yanukovich did try to make a deal with the 'so called' peaceful protesters and even told the police not to respond to the Molotov cocktails that were setting them on fire. After hours of negotiating a paper was signed between the protesters, the head of the EU and Yanukovich that he would remain in office until December when new elections could be held.

But liars they are and liars they'll be, so when he went back to his office, he was faced by the Nazi thugs and forced to flee for his life - as did many who represented the South and East of Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin saved his and his family's lives by staying up all night to direct his car to Crimea where he could be picked up by Russian helicopters - even though he was furious with him for trusting the West, and not giving order to the police to stop the thugs. Putin said what Yanukovich did will be for God to judge. A few years before that Medvedev lost the Presidency in Russia, because he too trusted the US and now Libya which was the richest nation in Africa was completely destroyed.

Most colonies was established on lands given to the different religeous denominations by the Crown. For instance, Pennsylvania was given to the Quakers, Massachusetts to the Puritans, Maryland to the Catholics, etc. Also there is no equivalence to Ukraine because there is no language law in the US. In New York many spoke Dutch, in New Orleans French, etc. German was increasing rapidly and in many places they conducted their businesses in German.

When it was brought to Congress to make German the official language it lost by 3 votes. The Germans were forced by protesters to give up their language when their businesses were attacked after the sinking of the Lusitania. The ship was deliberately packed with explosives and the passengers were warned by Germany not to board, but it was to no avail. What is interesting is that Churchill at the time was head of the Admiralty and Roosevelt the head of our Navy which means it was their conniving that threw us into both world wars.

The only other language that was considered as an official language in the US was Greek because of its richness, but Webster said that he had incorporated so many Greek words in the English language that it wasn't necessary.

I recall Nulands saying in a phone call with Pyatt that "Yats the man". By saying it's legal, then you're assuming Ukraine is an American colony.

Well neither could the American colonies, but they did. It depends on who wins, and it's usually the ones who have justice on their side - and it's certainly not the junta in Kiev with their flips, lies and indifference to human lives. As for the rest or what you wrote, it's just the same garbage being repeated over and over again, and it carries no weight except for Washington's minions.

 

First of all the rising that forced the removal of Yanukovich were patriots not “thugs”. Russia was not going to loan Ukraine money unless Ukraine joined the so called economic union controlled by Russia. Plus Ukraine would have to join the “security union” which further destroy Ukraines independence. Ukraine would have lost independence and “gained” dependence,

Countries go to the IMF and yes they need to get rid of corruption and have sane laws that protect society and business. Russia has mega corruption run by the oligarchs who Putin protects. Any Russian oligarch who does not do what and how Putin jails them on trumped up charges. (sic).

There is no official language law in the US.
The Dutch where thrown out of power in New York way early they were no longer a factor at the time of the revolution.
I know that there was some talk about making German the language but that was not serious. I know it happened early on after the Revolution. Your claim of Congress voting the idea down by three votes is a very suspicious story I would need to research that but I am not accepting it.

There was prior to WWI a backlash against the German named product but that disputed just as calling French fries freedom fries did in the Congressional cafeteria. And yes sauerkraut was freedom cabbage and wieners became hot dogs which stuck.

Bottom line is there was no junta in Kyiv and Ukraine needs to be part of Europe and not a colony of Russia and continue to suffer genocide actions by one Russian despot after another. Ukraine and Russia could be neighbors and trading partners but only if Russia stays on its side of the fence and not behave like German NAZIS, Mongols, ancient Tatars, and ancient Turks. Most importantly not behave like a Putin / Stalin.

On language Ukrainians are very liberal on the use of the Russian language. Zalenskyy grew up in a Russian speaking area and he did not learn Ukrainian until he decided to run fir president. Since Putin’s war against Ukraine I have heard Ukrainians being interviewed in recently freed dareas and swearing in Russian that the Russians are filthy murdering -&;(${<£§~_ and saying SLAVA UKRAINIY. The Azov regiment members speak Russian but are fighting against Russian invaders and Putin’s monsters. Therefore that filthy Putin lie that you , Russians, and pro Russians believe that Russian speaking people are discriminated against nothing but BULLCRAP!

 

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Are you saying that Ukraine has independence even though Zalensky's orders are coming from Washington? You are confused man.

Russia loaned Ukraine the 15 billion it desperately needed at the time, but it didn't need to loan Ukraine any more money since the hundreds of billions would have been Ukraine's losses only if Russia stopped its trade benefits. That would have only happened if Yanukovich joined the EU. Yanukovich wanted to bide time with the EU but they wouldn't allow it.

Yeah it worked great in Russia before Vladimir Putin when the criminals were sending their money to off shore accounts and the people were going hungry. With Putin all the IMF loans have been paid off. I can see how it's working now with Ukraine as well. The Ukraine's mafias wealth under the IMF increased a thousand fold, while the poorest people in Europe are carrying the burdens of the loans as well as being sent to the front with no training to be killed off.

When the people of Greece who are quite smart, realized that the debt to the IMF would not be sustainable, the reporters in the medias were sent to seminars in Washington so they could learn how to convince the Greek people that the loan would be sustainable. Since then Greece's debt has increased immensely. Soon they'll be starving the way the Russians were before Putin.

Or so you're told. But Russia under Putin has prospered immensely while Ukraine is dying as is the EU. It's breaking up you know and good riddance.

Are you saying that Yanukovich legally lost the election in Ukraine and was not kicked out with a coup?

Here are the peaceful 'non thug' protesters in Kiev before Yanukovich finally gave the police orders to fight back. By the way none of them were from the East and South of Ukraine. They all came from the Western part. There was a map on FOX news at the time showing exactly what part of Ukraine they came from.





This video was after Yanukovich finally gave the police orders to fight back.

 

Those mobilized Russians are surrendering en masse once they get to the front lines. Nobody wants to die for a Nazi madmans personal objectives. Evidently, the Russian POW's are receiving better food and medical care than they got under Russian military.

 

FYI. 70% of those in Donbass fled the invading Russian Nazi's. Thus, the 30% who remained might be Russian sympathizers or Russian Seperatists planted by Russia. Regardless, they don't represent all the people in Donbass being 70% of the people had to leave due to Russian Nazi terror.

The war pigs are Putin and his cronies being they invaded a sovereign nation that had no intention of ever attacking Russia.

 

Just by being honest and following the Geneva Convention the Russian soldiers can reliably know they will get good and fair treatment as POWs. Meanwhile, Russia tortured, mutilatwd, and killed Ukrainian captives as well as systematically starved them. Many Russian POWs have said they got better food and medical care in Ukraine than they did in the Russian Army.

 

It's not slick. Causing an ecological disaster, and blowing up vital infrastructure to an ally, so you can then profit, is dishonorable, but I would expect nothing less from a leader who displayed such dishonor in the Afghanistan "withdrawal".

 

We didn't do it; Russia did.

 

Blinken just came out and said it was a tremendous opportunity for the US to provide cleaner natural gas to Europe.

So is Putin so stupid that he blew up his own pipeline to give his primary war opponent a tremendous opportunity, or is Blinken lying, and it isn't really a US opportunity, and the sabotage is actually disastrous to US interests?

 

Yes, because Putin has shown himself to be such a master tactician to during the past 6 months.

 

Um, he stated the specifics of what he wanted in the beginning. Now 6 months later, he has it. Sounds like a decent tactician.

 

1. He doesn't have it.
2. What has it cost him?

 

I'm fairly sure what he meant. I was like 70% sure he did it a week ago. Now I'm like 90%. I treat it like reading a poker hand. I was fairly good at that, but in poker I only have a couple minutes to read. Unfortunately for the administration, I have all the time in the world to read them; just like with Covid origins, I'll be reading them every time they are behind podium discussing it. No one can maintain perfect deception forever.

 

He is in control of the territories he mentioned in the beginning (actually more, Kherson area was not on his list).

What has our strategy cost the world? Americans, prepare to be broke. Europeans, prepare to freeze. Africans, prepare to starve.

 

Dishonorable actions are the hallmark of the US Government over decades.