Questions for Mueller

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Mueller will do as Mueller will.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    You don't understand the investigation is over, Mueller could not find a OOJ crime. If he had he would have reported it the AG, the AG would have reported it to the Congress. The Congress would decide should he be impeached and removed so he can be prosecuted now, or not removed and prosecuted after he leaves office. The Democrats said that such charges should wait until after he leaves office naturally not by impeachment. So what is it they want here even when no charge of OOJ was brought?

    Congress investigated?????? He just spent two years and millions of dollars and 19 career federal prosecutors, all Democrat supporters, and 40 FBI agents and they could not bring any charges. What is Nadler going to find here due to Mueller and all those prosecutors and FBI agents total incompetence? What questions of the law can only Congress investigate?

    Now you said

    What evidence that will now pour in that the two year extensive investigation by Mueller's OSP with it's 19 career federal prosecutors and 40 FBI agents did not discover?
     
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  3. Gatewood

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    The . . . rule . . . of . . . law happened; and many of our leftists are in either mourning or in denial as a result.
     
  4. Gatewood

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    Ummmmmm . . . not if he wants to keep out of jail himself.
     
  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words, you are from the "lets give the guilty sob a fair trial". school.
     
  6. JakeStarkey

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    Ten possible counts of OOJ were identified.

    The next admin can act on them.
     
  7. Gatewood

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    That's something that the Obama worshiping Left cannot comprehend about Trump supporters. Most of us don't really give a damn about Trump himself; we simply care about the implementation of his policies.
     
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  8. Gatewood

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    Our leftists hate it when you explain the corrupt Clintons to them and what got Bill into hot water and how that came about. Most of them seemed to have blocked out the actual details decades ago.

    But in regards to this notion that the U.S. Attorney general is the president's wing man, be fair now, since both Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch DID blatantly function as Barack Obama's personal attorneys and hit squad members, naturally those leftists who took liberal directed courses on civics studies are operating under the mistaken notion that this is how it is actually supposed to be. From what we see of their typical postings a great many of them have only the shakiest of grasps regarding what the Rule of Law actually MEANS.
     
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    Trump/Russia collusion! Trump/Russia collusion! Trump/Russia collusion! shrieked nonstop by leftists and their RINO political allies for nearly three years; and so you were saying about unsubstantiated claims of bias?
     
  10. Gatewood

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    It's just the taxpayers' money; and so no biggie. Or apparently that is how the political Left thinks about it.
     
  11. Golem

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    No it's not!!!! Read the Mueller Report. Appendix D lists the ongoing investigations.

    How does one discuss this with somebody who posts such absolute clueless nonsense as this?

    Oh... you're just discovering that Congress has more power than a Special Prosecutor?

    Mueller (Page 176): Congress Has Power to Protect Congressional, Grand Jury, and Judicial Proceedings Against Corrupt Acts from Any Source.
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    Congress has Article I authority to define generally applicable criminal law and apply it to all persons-including the President. Congress clearly has authority to protect its own legislative functions against corrupt efforts designed to impede legitimate fact -gathering and lawmaking efforts ....
    Congress also has authority to establish a system of federal courts , which includes the power to protect the judiciary against obstructive acts .
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    Finally, the grand jury cannot achieve its constitutional purpose absent protection from corrupt acts .


    In other words, Congress has legal authority, that a special Prosecutor does not have, to charge a President criminally, and to protect itself from obstructive acts. So yes!!! Congress can do much more than a Special Prosecutor can.

    Your post shows not only ignorance about the Mueller report, but about the Constitution!

    Waste of time!
     
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    But, they cannot try and convict anyone, except of course impeachment.
     
  13. Golem

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    I don't know. Mueller says

    Mueller (Page 176) Congress has Article I authority to define generally applicable criminal law and apply it to all persons-including the President.
     
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    Here is something interesting, though. You know, of course, that Mueller doesn't work for the AG anymore, right? So instructions by the AG carry as much weight as instructions by you or me. However, Mueller had already said during his public statement that he would not provide any information to Congress beyond what was in the report.

    But it looks like one of the reasons why Mueller's testimony was delayed and extended is because he decided he wanted to make some opening remarks. Which is strange but not that big of a deal. But here's the interesting part. Mueller decided not to clear his opening statement with the DOJ.

    I don't know if that means anything or not. Most likely not. But it is an interesting "factoid".
     
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    Unless Mueller has created a new Constitution, it does not give congress the power to prosecute and convict.
     
  16. Lee Atwater

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    To the surprise of no one paying attention the DOJ has issued a letter to Mueller telling him he can't answer, essentially any question, the House Dems might ask him beyond what is in the report. They assert privilege prevents Mueller from discussing the deliberative process and anything to do with uncharged people............like the Orange Fraud. This after Billy the Bagman felt quite at liberty to discuss all sorts of aspects of his own decision making, that of Mueller's, and how the conclusions were reached.

    As I said last week I'm not expecting anything revelatory from Mueller. Certainly the folks at DOJ are doing all they can to make that happen.
     
  17. opion8d

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    Okay. You're wrong. I'm not sure most of the TV commentators, right or left, are capable of reading much less understanding. Once it goes beyond p***y grabbing they're off to the next sensation.
     
  18. PrincipleInvestment

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    Dang! I was gonna tell you there's no reason for anyone to get angry ... 'cause like you say ... Mueller 100% establishes 40% of the accusations he hasn't made. ::): The hearing shouldn't take more than an hour, as I indicated in post #51.
     
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    "I am SPARTACUS!" :roflol:
     
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    "Have him" in contempt ... which is a joke. But not as funny as giving the "Trump family crime syndicate mob boss" immunity to get a confession to crimes he can't be prosecuted for afterwards. Trump's book title: "Above the Law ... B!tches". :roflol:
     
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    I opined on that. Mueller would only be subject to disciplinary action for breaking DOJ regs. anyway. So why did Bob ask for direction? I think Bob wanted AG Barr to tell him to ignore the subpoenas. Poor bashful Bob.
     
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    I heard that it was delayed because junior members were upset with the rules.
     
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    Question: you were only charged with investigating collusion. It was quickly determined there was no collusion. Why didn’t your investigation end there? Why did you go on to investigate other areas (and people) not mentioned in your assignment?
     
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  24. Lee Atwater

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    I think it's fair to say so. But the problem with assuming that means people are well informed about what the report says is both right wing media and Billy the Bagman (not to mention the Liar-in-Chief) have repeatedly lied about what the report said. As evidenced by the posts of Trumpist's on this board all the disinformation had the effect of leaving some people with the exact wrong impression of the report.
     
  25. Lee Atwater

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    False. But thanks for proving the point I made in my previous post.
     
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