Quran Vs Bible

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Can you point to 10 verifiable examples of such happening?
     
  2. FreedomSeeker

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    They hate "us" because it's in their Qur'an:
    Q 5:51: Arberry: "O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. God guides not the people of the evildoers."

    Too bad Allah doesn't care enough about us to send a new prophet to tell us that this is wrong.
     
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    So I take it you are dead-set AGAINST paying the special discriminatory tax on you as a non-Muslims as in Qur'an 9:29, and don't wish to "feel subdued" as the Muslims are supposed to make you feel, correct? I take it you believe in fairness, and not discrimination.
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/u...-temple-in-wisconsin.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/31/kansas.doctor.killed/

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local-news/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car

    http://www.historycommons.org/timel...tic_terrorism_tmln_murder_of_dr__john_britton

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/eric_rudolph/1.html

    http://advocatesaz.org/2014/12/30/brookline-clinic-shootings-december-30-1994/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/abortviolence/stories/sniper.htm

    Not going to do 10 because I don't feel like it, but you get the idea.

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    Yes, absolutely
     
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    I see no difference between you Christians and radical Islam.

    You just don't commit as many violent acts as they do.

    Not trolling.

    Because when it came right down to it, if God came out of heaven and told you to do exactly what ISIS and other groups are doing, you would do it.

    Just because you aren't that violent now doesn't mean you won't be in the future.

    And plus, you guys are doing acts of violence in America and around the world too. Shooting doctors that perform abortions and bombing clinics that do the same. Torching Mosques because of 911 trying to push all Muslims out of America.

    Wanting to discriminate against anybody who isn't' Christian, Especially atheists and homosexuals, and wanting to put mandatory prayer in school and trying to force the American public school system to reflect a religious christian value while displacing other important classes.

    Constantly lieing about how government oppresses you because of those dirty rotten atheists not letting you get your message out.

    Trying to turn all of America into a white conservative Christian nation that nobody else may apply to.

    So tell me, why should I believe anything you say about you so called non violent Christians?

    You're really just not any different than them.
     
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    Scientology seemed too mainstream for me, so I chose Mormonism, which is way cool, since they promised me my own PLANET when I converted....uh, that is if I'm married, as non-married people are discriminated against in Mormonism for some crazy reason. But who am I to question a self-proclaimed prophet of god! So I married my spouse, Kris (the world's cutest Buddhist!), and now I'm all set to get my own planet! I've been busy lately thinking up a cool name to name my planet, and....wait......hold on........wait- I just thought of something.....oh crap, I wonder if my spouse has to be a Mormon too for us to get our free planet!! (Joseph Smith used the n-word to describe blacks and wouldn't let them into his church, so I bet he also doesn't want Buddhist rif-raff on his chosen planets.) Crap!!

    [**Panic** Let me get back to you guys on this......]
     
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    Hey I like that idea.

    Your spouse is your very own planet!

    It has quite the ring to it, don't you think?

    Planet spouse here we come....

    Hey, I don't suppose your planet has a holodeck in it, by any chance, hmmmmmm????
     
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    Agreed!
    Same messiah (Jesus, aka "Isa"), and many of the same prophets in Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc., etc.
    Both say women are worth 1/2 a man.
    Both say to kill gays (Jesus and Mohammad never spoke out against that, even though the texts say it.)
    Both (including Jesus in the NT) approve of slavery.
    Both are big on torture.
    Both will see that the Dalai Lama gets plenty of torture (read Revelation.)
    Both are too afraid to update their outdated and felony-approving texts (that's called intellectual cowardice.)

    ....the list is endless.
     
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    Actually, I'm anti-religious. I personally think that it has been the cause of more death and destruction than anything else in human history and we would all be better off if it had never been thought of. I also personally think we should nuke the entire middle east until it's one giant glowing radioactive glass parking lot. I just can't stand the hypocrisy spewed by some of our more conservative religious members.
     
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    If you want a holodeck I think you'll need to become a Scientologist, my friend, as I'm pretty sure that Lord Xenu can arrange that.

    Xenu (/ˈziːnuː/), also called "Xemu", was, according to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy".....brought billions of his people to Earth (then known as "Teegeeack") in a DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes, and killed them with hydrogen bombs. Official Scientology scriptures hold that the thetans (immortal spirits) of these aliens adhere to humans, causing spiritual harm.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

    You know, Scientology, compared to the Abrahamic faiths in Genesis that is, looks more realistic, relatively speaking.
     
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    You mean because they approve of a god that in their Bible is actually WORSE than that "Allah" fellow is? Yes, Christian hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife. Obama was right, they need to "get off their high horse".

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    You mean you believe in reality.
     
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    Jesus never defended the rights of those two groups to get into heaven, so they are just emulating Jesus' hatred, so we can't blame them....unless JESUS is to blame......hmmmm.
     
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    Right, so when Christians want to engage in violence they just forget about the NT and recite from the OT.

    Its all the same God after all, just a bit more contradictory God than the God of the Islam....

    Then of course there is the strange fact that the God of Islam is also the God of Christianity but this gets way too confusing.
     
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    I hope you are having fun playing your little games.
     
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    And Jesus ("Isa") is the messiah in both, and Noah/Moses/Abraham, etc. are all prophets in both cults, etc.
     
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    You ascribe to Christians the same level of devotion as the typical Muslim who goes to prayer five times a day.

    We are not usually that pious.
     
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    Give him a break, what's a guy SUPPOSED to do in debates when his prophet is a pedo, murderer, rapist of captives, beheader, torturer, illiterate caravan robber, etc.,?....he's working with what he's got, and that's to be admired. :)

    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bull shiite.
     
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    Wait until you see the Southpark episode on it.
     
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    In other words you don't believe the truth of your religious texts as much as the Muslims do, so you don't follow your tests as well as they follow theirs. What does that say about the credibility of your god/authors/prophets?

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    I think I've seen it.
    I like their episode on Richard Dawkins and how atheists take over the world, but are just as insane as religious people are.
     
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    Ladies & Gents: Behold an attempt to alienate an athiest from the rest of American
    society and culture by harping on the aggrivations an atheist might genuinely feel.

    And let's see if it works.

    Pop some popcorn and pull up a chair.
     
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    Since "shiite-hole country" and "Islam" are two 'words' that have been used together on this forum a lot over the years, it's obvious that those prayers are clearly not getting answered very well. In many indicators of a nation's well-being, Muslim nations consistently rank at the bottom....so the MORE you pray, the LESS results you get, clearly.
     
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    Nothing.

    *******s do this all the time.

    You should continue to entertain us with your little debate jiu jitsu tricks.
     
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    I love your enthusiasm and creativity.
     
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    The OP is full of crap.

    I looked up random five of those the Bible versus he claims called for the death penalty and they don't They refer to "cutting off from the people" which is separation or banishment NOT execution. To compare you can look at the Exodus verses for murder which clearly says that the murderer shall be put to death and the plethora of other versus which do NOT call for the death penalty.

    Secondly, this has been mentioned a plethora of times and is still completely ignored by Muslim apologists, Christians are not under the OT law they are under the NT law that supercedes it. Jesus stopped an execution from happening which is why many Christian oppose the death penalty.

    Even when you look at Jews that are under the OT laws, they are not running around beheading nonbelievers nor are they throwing gays off of buildings like Muslims do. They also treat their women a hell of a lot better than Muslims do.

    Muslims are the ONLY ones today who are en mass treating half their population like cattle and actively supporting the death penalty for leaving the faith.
     
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