Here's what Winter Bear said: "...I'll say this again - if you want to talk about both crime and race at the same time, then start your own thread about them and be prepared to explain why they're relevant. If you're not prepared to start your own threads, then limit it to threads where the race actually has to do with the story. In both of the threads where you've been moderated today, there was not one single word about race in the OP, or anywhere else in the thread, until you brought it up and tried to connect them. That is off-topic and disruptive, and will be subject to moderation." I think there is a relationship between crime and race because some people are desperate. Their desperation makes them dangerous. Economic desperation is concentrated among African Americans and Mexicans/Central Americans because they are usually younger and poorly educated. There is crime among young whites, but they compose a much smaller portion of the generation that is committing most violent crime. Check this out: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782848/
Crimes committed by members of the Black underclass are widespread and excessive given their small percentage of the population. The problem is related to the absence of black fathers in the black underclass. Black men have let their women and children down all too often. Women struggle alone to raise the children of their many paramours, but the dads don't step up.
Are you telling us that the trillions of $$ sucked out of the taxpayers to be allocated to every welfare and entitlement program for minorites known to mankind since LBJ's Great Society daze hasn't been enough of a boost to take these lost souls out from the shackles of their ghetto existences to become honest and outstanding citizens? Tell me it ain't so!
If criminality is race related i guess after having several wars including 2 world wide ones, exploitation , extortion and extermination of minorities or even entire civilisations i guess we white people are the scum of earth . Inside 21st century living in a country with high criminality and 20% of the population being (mostly illegal) immigrants i can not recall reading about yellow Asians or black Africans committing homicide while there are plenty of incidents involving locals, eastern Europeans and people from the Indian sub-continent .
Extortion and extermination of minorities? Please expalin. Nice try to skew the main theme. But Albert was specifically talking about the African Americans--the Central Americans and the Chicanos.
I don't think that I'm in disagreement with what you are saying here, on some level, poor and oppressed folks are going to be more likely per capita to commit certain crimes. Or one could say the types of crimes are different. A CEO may take down the financial system, a poor black person may take your wallet. It should be pointed out that you are looking at this all far too simplistically and that it can negatively affect outcomes in peoples lives, your life. SO I think you are generalizing too much to where could be functionally detrimental; that is the a slippery slope one should always strive to stay away from. You run the following risks: (1) Introducing unnecessary variables to your calculations of others (2) Creating a false world of thought and actions (3) Falsely and inaccurately responding to situations. We can deduce what to take from all of this. So, by your rationale, if you see a person of color, the thought is to be suspicious. What does this mean? I'm just going to talk about situations for a second to get my point across: Say you see a kid enter your neighborhood, who clearly to you someone who "shouldn't" be there, you've never seen them, he's one of the young black kids, etc., you call the cops and hunt him down, you end up killing him. How did that really benefit you? You are now sitting in a Florida court. Say you are a manger of store, a guy you think fits one of your pre-defined categories applies for a job, you discredit them as lazy, maybe more prone to commit crimes, etc.. Or say you have to do business in another country full of these "types" of people. You turn them way. They guy you didn't hire is the hardest working employee and your rival business leverages him to work the accounts in this other country where he has ties. They end up doing very well. Or maybe the guy you felt distru(*)(*)(*)(*)l of at the mall would have made one of the best friends you've ever had. Maybe not. You will never know that. The point is that you CAN be wary of others, it's common, especially if they come from a different world or look different to you. Say you focus on these threats, maybe occasionally successfully (then again we could get into the rationale of that) but it's not a real world just because SOMETIMES it is. Say you spend your time focused on Mexicans or whatever, in America, you are more likely to be victimized by someone who is white. So effectively you are priding yourself on poor judgement and a skewed world view.
what is the white mans excuse? They are the smallest minority on earth yet they have murdered the most ppl. FACT!
You raise a number of good points. Everyone stereotypes, but there is a reason why most stereotypes arise in the first place. I stereotype young African American men by fleeing from them as soon as I see them. Why do I do this? Being harmed by a young Black man occurs so often that it can be analyzed in terms of statistical probabilities.
True in general and historically. But I don't live in general. I live in the here and now. There is a specificity in everyone's existence. The specific fact in the US at this moment in time there is great racial friction and resentment. I can't stand being beaten down because it would kill me. Avoidance is the only real alternative I have.
That's what I'm saying. All of that money was wasted. All of the recipients of free money have used the funds for their operations instead of for capital formation. It is absolutely incredible how unskilled and uneducated these folks are. - - - Updated - - - I don't understand what you've written.
You're not going back far enough? Why are Black father's missing from their families? Why is the Black community the way it is now. The problem is that people are entirely focused on the present situation and they turn their nose up at it. "Look at this mess," they say. "How disgusting". However, the real question is "How did this mess get here in the first place", and "Are the Black people responsible for the mess, or have they been left with the mess to clean up". In the very present, the Black community has had to deal with the wreckage of their past. Everyone loves to point at the afflictions of the community, but no one points at the improvements. There are black people with their own business, their own industries, they are educated and they educate. They occupy office and they serve with distinction. They have broken records and they all do this while having a considerable handicap. That's not true. A number of the welfare programs of that time and after, from regular civil welfare programs to the various aid policies given to veterans- while being technically free and open to every citizen- had a number of stipulations and requirements that effectively restricted welfare to many blacks. FDR as well, all those policies which basically put the entirety of America on welfare were the entirety of America-minus-Black people. back then, these things were widely praised by the people who were going through a hard time and needed help. Now...it's welfare and it's a dispicable disgrace. What changed? The type of people receiving welfare... That's your problem. You acknowledge the problem, but don't look at the cause. Or more accurately, you acknowledge the effect, but don't look at the problem. If there's anything you should denigrate Black America for, it is for not having the strength and spirit to rise above the terrible problems and oppression's inflicted on them by White America. I know you didn't do it, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen, and that the effects don't follow them to this day. They are improving. But you can't expect an overnight success.
Why should I help my political enemies? That doesn't make sense. The time to have helped black people was when America was running the world and comparatively wealthy. An economic pie shrinking in relative terms eliminates altruism and guilt. My wife is Chinese. My daughter in law is Vietnamese. Neither of them has any sympathy for African Americans. They avoid them like the plague. They feel no guilt whatsover over the intractible situation African America finds itself in.
Interesting article on blacks perpetuating racism. Check it out: http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/0...petuate-racism-and-the-only-way-to-thwart-it/
This for extortion and the Guanches for extermination . Mestizos and Negroes have similar culture? i guess the Irish were also scum 100 years ago .
They are responsible. We see the same behaviour in Europe where black people were NOT brought in as slaves but came of their own choosing. Fathers abandoning children as the norm, obsession with making ast money and spending it on cars and jewelry hardly any. Outside restaurants and barber shops they are virtually non existent (apart from Drugs of course) like what they get into college on lower grades and with special funding and then drop out at huge numbers. They hardly exist at all in science and are only seen in Social sciences such as 'black studies' where they can publish whatevr nonsense they like and still get tenure Sure they occupy office -black people vote for other black people? Distinction? Black run cities are bywords for corruption and appalling management- Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago They break lots of athletics records -how are they handicapped as sportsmen> So what you are saying is that they are inferior to jews who went through the most appalling privations and hit the ground running? Perhaps thats why the blacks hate the jews- they embarrass them
Interesting. In this country crime is distributed fairly evenly between whites, Asians, and people from the middle east. The curious thing about that is that for tge non whites it has nothing to do with economics. Asians in this country are educated and wealthy, and Arabs are not poor. The white element in crime is connected to education and economics, however.
It ain't so. Only 4.9% of blacks are on welfare, which consists solely of women & children. Whites make up the highest amount of welfare recipients. Black peoples' intake of welfare takes up less than 1% of the National Budget. Blacks paid into the welfare program for 40 years without being able to benefit from the program, did we whine like some <<<mod edit...vulgarity and bypassing the profanity filter>>>? No! 90% of american Indians are welfare recipients, complain about that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sadly, you'll see the same people complaining about the black problem is the same people (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the current administration. They don't want to look at the reasons for things being the way they are, they just want to complain about the way it is now. They don't understand the problem, because they don't care to understand what caused the problem. Sad.
